Stingray Project failed!

[Just Toby]

I think it is due to the fast metabolism mixed in with a primitive design adapted from a salt water shark family, they produce a lot of urea plus they produce a lot of ammonia from their breathing and activity as well as the waste produced from their vast diets.


If you want more scientific and accurate detail then let me know and I will refer to one of my ray books as they describe it a bit better than that.

When a rays takes a dump in 300gals they can cloud the water at times!

They are also very active, the more active the fish, the more ammonia produced, they breath a lot of oxygen and the by product of breathing in fish is the production of ammonia. Most ray death stem from ammonia spikes in the aquarium leading to a ph reduction in turn slowing down the filter bacteria activity.

The ray diet is pretty protein heavy too.

 

[Luc]

I think it is due to the fast metabolism mixed in with a primitive design adapted from a salt water shark family, they produce a lot of urea plus they produce a lot of ammonia from their breathing and activity as well as the waste produced from their vast diets.


If you want more scientific and accurate detail then let me know and I will refer to one of my ray books as they describe it a bit better than that.

When a rays takes a dump in 300gals they can cloud the water at times!

They are also very active, the more active the fish, the more ammonia produced, they breath a lot of oxygen and the by product of breathing in fish is the production of ammonia. Most ray death stem from ammonia spikes in the aquarium leading to a ph reduction in turn slowing down the filter bacteria activity.

The ray diet is pretty protein heavy too.

Yes, tks bro....that's good enough info.....but I realised my water got cloudy when I feed rays and my PB(they tankmates) together(Market prawns and live feeders). But when I feed only my rays(with Market Prawns)....the water is still clear...this sparks me to ask this q

Also, during one of the heavy feeding,...in fact my PB(kelberi) is the one who had clamped fins and breath near the surface). But the rays, black rays(supposedly more sensitive) are still ok(touchwood).

I have also kept many fishes together in my 4 x 2 x 2 tank as can be seen in this VID and changed water only twice per week, as I want to try ray keeping and see their tolerant...but I am surprised....both rmm made it through fine for 2-3 months

Here is the vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awB7C6FkqBQ

Do let me know your true opinion. Whether I am lucky in my case or what..

 

[skynoch]

Sorry for your loss and hope you better luck next time.
One of the problems with rays as they don't show the signs of bad water or problems alot of times and look normal and seem to act normal (to an untrained eye) but they are slowly being affected and then suddenly one day they start to curl and die. Your live feeders will cuse the water to get cloudy when eaten due to the mess not the waste from the fish/rays after.

 

[jeffers]

Yes, tks bro....that's good enough info.....but I realised my water got cloudy when I feed rays and my PB(they tankmates) together(Market prawns and live feeders). But when I feed only my rays(with Market Prawns)....the water is still clear...this sparks me to ask this q

Also, during one of the heavy feeding,...in fact my PB(kelberi) is the one who had clamped fins and breath near the surface). But the rays, black rays(supposedly more sensitive) are still ok(touchwood).

I have also kept many fishes together in my 4 x 2 x 2 tank as can be seen in this VID and changed water only twice per week, as I want to try ray keeping and see their tolerant...but I am surprised....both rmm made it through fine for 2-3 months

Here is the vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awB7C6FkqBQ

Do let me know your true opinion. Whether I am lucky in my case or what..

there you go with calling them royals again....... so far you have been lucky. your pbass are already showing signs and i hope you never miss a feeding for the rays sake. the rays are still small they will get bigger then you will get into alot of trouble as i dont think your tank can handle more bio load.

 

[Just Toby]

A 4x2x2 is large enough to contain them now but it is not a large enough body of water to provide stability and you are overstocked now and that's without them growing and they have a LOT of growing left to do, I dont think you have a sump either which means even less volume.

To give you an idea my filter holds more water than that tank and I have less fish than you plus I have a an auto drip of nearly 30 gallons per day and a canister to back this up....that and 300 gallons of water in the main tank......my tank is already getting too small IMO and that's after 1 yr. I also have over 25 years of fish keeping experience to fall back on.

Just one ray on it's own is too big for that tank....sorry.