get some retics or motoro's and get some experience..... P14 price is not going to drop and will probably go up... hystrix are obtainable but not easily and good luck on scobina.... you need to get your tanks set up and cycled and then look into some rays as i told you on your other thread.... once you have it going and ready then its time to look into rays.. but you need to get some experience before you buy expensive rays...