Stingray Symposium update

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csx4236;2061434; said:
As far as the ban it is all still just speculation nothing has been approved and no one really knows for sure. Yes we have learned alot about these rays in there natural habitat and the scientists learned alot about rays in captivity there seems to be a huge difference in behavior of wild rays and captive rays. They do not breed often in the wild, once a years seems to be the norm and they might have 50 pups in a females entire lifteime, compared to 20-40 rays per female a year in captivity. Diets are different depending on type of ray some prefer a mostly snail diet while others prefer insect larva. Rays are also known to come out of the water close to beaches to eat insects off the shoreline there were some pictures of rays doing this supplied by the scientists. Man I cant even believe how much info was discussed.

Amazing! How do they get back into the water?
 
Beun;2061560; said:
Amazing! How do they get back into the water?

They said that their slime coat helps them slide off the rocks back into the water. Btw awsome event and it was great to meet all you ray freaks:D.
 
Gr8KarmaSF;2061446; said:
Wow, very interesting....

Can I ask what type of rays prefer what types of food? What did they say motorros tend to eat more?

Any pics of rays jumping onshore to catch insects? Sounds like an amazing picture!

So now I wonder what the effects of this constant breeding does to female rays? Any noted negative effects?

The Brazilian scientists had pictures of rays coming about half there body length onto shore to eat insects and they would slide back in using there slime coat. Were not sure what long term effects breeding will have on our females only time will tell. I will get the exact ration of food types in there stomach and post soon.
 
I wish I could've made it, sounds like there was definitely lots learned and well worth the trip for those who went. Looking forward to pics!
 
It was nice meeting some great folks there. The info gained was superoir to any previous scientific findings published in any books or articles. Many unknown questions were answered, a new type of ray with no stinger was noted(it resembled Paratrygon), I learned my obscure motoro type rays are possibly Potamotrygon boesmani, and we learned some great ways we as ray keepers practice ray husbandry. If a second symposium is to be held, I will make it for sure. If it's half as good as this one was, it will be worth it.
-Dale
 
I agree with everyone. It was an excellent event. I learned a ton. It was good to put faces to all the names of fellow ray keepers I've talked to over the years but never met. The scientists from Brazil gave excellent insight into ray behavior in the wild. Nico, Frank, and Mike gave excellent info on captive breeding. Mike Byrne gave an excellent presentation on building a true monster tank.

I'd like to thank all the speakers for sharing their info. I will definately attend mike if you decide to hold one in the future.

Pat
Amazon Stingrays
 
a new type of ray with no stinger was noted(it resembled Paratrygon)

whoa!!! Any pics???
 
I want to thank everyone who came to Chicago and made this such a great event. My head is swimming with information. Here's some stuff that is standing out at the moment
This 'stingless ray'- wow, who expected that? Looks a bit like what we call the 'China'
Paratrygon- probably 3-5 species not just one that all currently are being lumped into Paratrygon aireiba
Could be twice as many species as are currently named
Lots of discussions about whether females could change to male at younger ages (under 18 months perhaps) or perhaps don't show claspers at a younger age. No formal talks on this, but enough discussion of individual's who suspect this that it should be looked at further
Females perhaps exhibit some degree of parental care in the wild- how cool is that!
What many of us, myself included, call Tiger Ray's correct scientific name is Potamotrygon schroederi- whoops

Could go on and on. What I walked away from more than anything is how little we really know and how much there is to learn.

It was great to meet and talk to everyone. I wish we had had more time.

E
 
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