Stingray

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I do find it odd sbuse that you describe retics as a waste of money and yet you have an entire album of fish that have died in your care........
 
grapedinox;4238269; said:
hmmmmm well I have had mine now for 3 years and now have a breeding pair. So if 95% are half dead and the other 5% just die for no reason what percentage do mine fit into??? I agree the shipping conditions are deplorable at best for all rays but even worse for the "cheap" rays. I think of the general public 99% of people getting rays shouldn't get them anyway, and then they usually get retics because they are cheap and there for throw them in a 100 gallon tank and wonder why they die. These are sensitive animals all of the rays! A person needs to research, reasearch, research these animals and when they think they have it all figured out research it some more! I think 90% of all ray deaths are preventable by the person buying it. Just my 2 cents. My retics where the first ever rays that I bought and I baby them and I love them and they have flourished!
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all mine had a stop in a 55gal for "treatment" then into my 180gal...the longest on lived was a few months and that was my male and after it randomly died i "called it" on them...ya alot of it could be summed up by me using a shotty sorce, but i am not the only one that has had many problems with them...i love the way they look and have nice patterns...i just can't seem to get myself to say to someone "get a retic"...

grapedinox;4238277; said:
I do find it odd sbuse that you describe retics as a waste of money and yet you have an entire album of fish that have died in your care........
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of that album of fish all of those fish were much older then the retics i have had that died...i say they are a waste of money losely...you have had a great exp with them and i can see how you would say they are awsome fish as they are, but once you have them just die for no reason...they were eatting like no tomarrow one day, then there is no tomarrow when they aren't even close to being a teenage ray then have that happen multipule times to you...after that happens to you then i want to see your opinon on retics...i geuss that kinda sums up were i am comming from...

i love rays and am planning big things in the neer future with rays, but retics are forever out of my ray dealings...
 
grapedinox;4238269; said:
hmmmmm well I have had mine now for 3 years and now have a breeding pair. So if 95% are half dead and the other 5% just die for no reason what percentage do mine fit into??? I agree the shipping conditions are deplorable at best for all rays but even worse for the "cheap" rays. I think of the general public 99% of people getting rays shouldn't get them anyway, and then they usually get retics because they are cheap and there for throw them in a 100 gallon tank and wonder why they die. These are sensitive animals all of the rays! A person needs to research, reasearch, research these animals and when they think they have it all figured out research it some more! I think 90% of all ray deaths are preventable by the person buying it. Just my 2 cents. My retics where the first ever rays that I bought and I baby them and I love them and they have flourished!
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Very well put Nicole.
Because these rays are cheaper than other rays they often fall into the wrong hands so usually perish.The other problem is too many shops sell them far to soon after import,it is true they are more fussy to get feeding but once they have acclimatised they will infact feed as veraciously as most Potamotrygon.I would recommend 4-6 weeks in any dealers tanks before selling to the public,sure it costs a few quid more to keep them for that period but you can sell the ray in confidence and even charge a little more for it ,in the UK Retics sell between £45-£65ea,personally i would pay the extra £20 for a healthy ray thats feeding any day of the week.

Congratulations on breeding your rays by the way!
 
the store that i work at has a small retic. for salt. weve had him for a couple of months and hes eating blackworms and ghost shrimp.
 
aquaman45;4238600; said:
Very well put Nicole.
Because these rays are cheaper than other rays they often fall into the wrong hands so usually perish.The other problem is too many shops sell them far to soon after import,it is true they are more fussy to get feeding but once they have acclimatised they will infact feed as veraciously as most Potamotrygon.I would recommend 4-6 weeks in any dealers tanks before selling to the public,sure it costs a few quid more to keep them for that period but you can sell the ray in confidence and even charge a little more for it ,in the UK Retics sell between £45-£65ea,personally i would pay the extra £20 for a healthy ray thats feeding any day of the week.

Congratulations on breeding your rays by the way!
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Agreed the same could be said for some of the more finicky, freshly imported larger species like Schroederis or Menchacais also.
 
Gshock I only just noticed the two quotes at the bottom of your posts. Are they real? If so they are brilliant!

On the retic question , bigblue22 please do some more research before you get a stingray as you seem to be very keen, which is a good thing. But you are posting a lot of wrong bits of information. Ask the right questions then listen to the answers. You will get some invaluable advice.
 
WOW a salt water retic???? HMMMM don't think I have heard of that one before. Think you could post a picture for us so maybe we could see what it really is.....
 
GAHH I meant SALE!! So sorry for the confusion
 
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