Stirring the pot 2.0

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classic-chassis;4597838; said:
This topic's been done before, use the search function.
Perhaps it has though the OP may want to re-hash or get a more recent opinion on the subject. Or perhaps he hasn't used the search function, but why respond in an unhelpful way? It takes less effort for you not to respond and it's just as unhelpful. So for the sake of you and the OP, don't waste your time on a thread I presume you feel is a waste of your time.
As for the whole inter-breeding between Jar's and Asian's it won't happen in the near future. It's economically not viable for the industry, and lets face it that's the nature of the hobby and of business. Hybridization between fish that are already hard to breed would cost a significant amount of money. It may take more than normal farming perhaps even stripping and other costly breeding procedure's that make it not viable. Some hybrids take very little money to create. Smaller fish need less room and some will interbreed as freely as they would breed period. Examples would be flowerhorns and the like. Other hybrids such as Red-tail/Shovelnose cat's were created originally for the food industry I believe. Since the demand is much higher as food then it could ever be in the pet industry it is viable. The money is there for the investement. However a Jar/Asian hybrid may result in a undesirable fish to the pet industry. Also since it won't sell on the scale as a food fish the offspring would have to be ridiculously priced to offset the cost. A price most hobbyist wouldn't be able to afford making the demand even lower. All in all it would be most likely be a failed endeavor by anyone attempting it. At least that's my opinion. I could be wrong though.
 
koltsix;4604932; said:
Perhaps it has though the OP may want to re-hash or get a more recent opinion on the subject. Or perhaps he hasn't used the search function, but why respond in an unhelpful way? It takes less effort for you not to respond and it's just as unhelpful. So for the sake of you and the OP, don't waste your time on a thread I presume you feel is a waste of your time.
As for the whole inter-breeding between Jar's and Asian's it won't happen in the near future. It's economically not viable for the industry, and lets face it that's the nature of the hobby and of business. Hybridization between fish that are already hard to breed would cost a significant amount of money. It may take more than normal farming perhaps even stripping and other costly breeding procedure's that make it not viable. Some hybrids take very little money to create. Smaller fish need less room and some will interbreed as freely as they would breed period. Examples would be flowerhorns and the like. Other hybrids such as Red-tail/Shovelnose cat's were created originally for the food industry I believe. Since the demand is much higher as food then it could ever be in the pet industry it is viable. The money is there for the investement. However a Jar/Asian hybrid may result in a undesirable fish to the pet industry. Also since it won't sell on the scale as a food fish the offspring would have to be ridiculously priced to offset the cost. A price most hobbyist wouldn't be able to afford making the demand even lower. All in all it would be most likely be a failed endeavor by anyone attempting it. At least that's my opinion. I could be wrong though.

i appreciate the response, I understand it may be expensive to try, but the main question is still whether a hybrid of the 2 would be illegal in the US or not?
 
imo, it 's not gonna happen soon because even without it, breeders are having problem selling pure bred (maybe not to the us but everywhere else) at a high profit margin. why should they invest in it when the demand for their current product is still ridiculously high.
 
iwiied;4617175; said:
imo, it 's not gonna happen soon because even without it, breeders are having problem selling pure bred (maybe not to the us but everywhere else) at a high profit margin. why should they invest in it when the demand for their current product is still ridiculously high.

because there are a little over 300 million people in the US alone. And although the economy is pretty bad right now, there are still plenty of people who have money.

Still waiting to hear from someone with some knowledge of whether a hybrid would be illegal or not.
 
I don't think anyone other than Oddball could answer your question here. I think you should direct your question to fish and wildlife and then post their response here. :).
 
i hate when people say use the search bar the searchbar sucks i can never find anything on it plus their are always new people coming on to this website
 
LOL, Koltsix thanks for the big response and yes you're right i shouldn't have written that.
Scriving, hate's a strong word LOL, it bugs me as well and that's the first time i've done it TBH.

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This annoys me even more!
Go to the first page on the list.
 
My point is. Oddball is probably one of the only people who can answer the questions thrown up by this topic. If the OP searches they would have found out the topic has been covered already, and oddball has answered any questions in detail. It's a little unfair to go back to him or any poster every few years to ask the same questions over again and expect a comprehensive answer.

Having read the other thread you would know they can't realistically be cross bred, so it makes to whole discussion about legality mute.
 
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