Stocking a new tank

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Hey,
in early 2017 my new tank will arrive.
It´s a custom made tank with the dimensions 200x55x55cm (which will cost 150 Euros more than the standard 200x50x50 tank but you know.. to me it´s worth it).
But I am not sure about the stocking.

These fish from my current stock will move in:
-1 Mastacembelus dayi
-3 Polypterus delhezi
-6 Metynnis altidorsalis

Primary the purpose of this tank is to house my Datnioides microlepis until I find a person with a bigger tank.
I just need to get this tank to not always have to think about getting rid of the Dat within the next month ´cause this feeling is stressing me out more than everything else.
I know some will say that the tank is big enough but you have to know that I am not a fan of barebottom/empty tanks I am always trying to make them look as natural as possible and this is taking a lot of space so I do not think a 50cm Dat would have enough space to move between all those driftwood and rocks!

But of course I am not getting rid of this tank after rehoming the Dat!
So I want to think about the stocking now although it might take some time after I am going to get the planned stock.

So we´re facing one big problem at the beginning:
The Dayi is a little over 30cm long and will kill anything he is able to "grab".
But since I´ve got more tanks growing out the new stock in 50 to 120gal would not be a problem!
So I can´t stock it with fish that stay small or thin since he already managed to crush the head of a 10cm angelfish and rip of a piece of the stomach of a Hyphessobrycon anisitsi.
He´s a real predator..

Since it´s not a small tank I thought about "collecting" clown loaches within an area of 30km from people who keep them in small tanks.
I think those loaches would be safe after reaching 10-15cm and as I said I´ve got several 50gal/75gal and 120gal as growout-tanks.
But the question is if 200cm x55cm will be enough for those loaches since they get past the 20cm as well.
I know juveniles are quite active fish and if a full grown specimen (I know they will rarely pass the 20cm) is still as active as a juvie this tank would be too small imho.

I thought about keeping smaller Datnioides in there.
Undecimradiatus or Polota (depending on which I am able to find) should be good for this dimensions since they do not pass the 40cm mark.
I´d love to keep larger knifefish such as Apteronotus albifrons but they might end as food since their "tail" is too thin.

Maybe I will get more Polypterus.
A Polypterus ornatipinnis would be a dream but I do not think the tank is big enough since it´s a very active species maybe Endlicherii should be better since adults are not active at all lying around all day and just being a living sausage ;)

But that´s the point where I am out of species that would fit.
Any type of "baracuda" characin will be in danger since they are pretty thin and might be mistaken as food by a Polypterus.
Astronotus are a dream as well but I don´t know since they might be too aggressive for the rest of the fish.
I really do like flagtails but I basically know nothing about them.

So what exactly am I looking for?
A species that won´t be eaten by Polypterus or Mastacembelus.
A species that will not grow out of this tank!
A species that is not too aggressive to be kept with Datnioides and the other fish.
 
Big bala sharks,big tinfoil barbs,teardrop barbs,redear sunfish,red hook silver dollars,jack Dempsey,geos
 
Hey,
Bala sharks and similar fish are species I am not really interested in.
I´ve got a blue Dempsey but he´s got a solo 50gal which will be replaced be 75gal.
I´d like to keep him in my bedroom so I don´t really want to move him downstairs.
Geophagus would be an option!
Maybe Satanoperca since they tend to be more peaceful than some Geophagus.

There´s a thing I should´ve mentioned before.
I am living in Europe so I am a person performing the hobby mostly with the European philosophy of keeping fish.
But since I am half Asian I know the Asian philosophy as well and I am trying to combine the positive aspects of it.

Long story short:
Big barbs and characins or generally big and active fish are no fish I´d like to keep in just 200cm.
I´ve kept a redhook for a little over a year it grew from 5cm to 23cm a wonderful fish!
But with the experience I made I would not keep it in a tank less than 200x70cm anymore they tend to be very jumpy when a person enters the room which leads to the fish crashing in driftwood and rocks trying to escape by swimming straight into the depth of the tank.
 
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Big bala sharks,big tinfoil barbs,teardrop barbs,redear sunfish,red hook silver dollars,jack Dempsey,geos
Ever heard of the space bar? yikes

On terms of knife fish, a single Gymnotus pedanopterus specimen will be a good fit, get to around 30CM and are solitary and said to be generally placid with other fish, and it may be a mission to get to prepared foods as well.

Larger geophagus are also a very good option, chunky and peaceful cichlids
 
Hey.
Gymnotus could be interesting but as far as I know they tend to be quite aggressive.
And I´ve never seen pedanopterus in a shop´s stock.
Always just carapo.
Rhamphychthys could be an option since they grow pretty big and are quite lazy fish but they might be too thin as well.
 
Hey.
Gymnotus could be interesting but as far as I know they tend to be quite aggressive.
And I´ve never seen pedanopterus in a shop´s stock.
Always just carapo.
Rhamphychthys could be an option since they grow pretty big and are quite lazy fish but they might be too thin as well.
Ah okay, i have never seen these or heard too much about them, just saw gmnotus as a potential option
 
An oscar? Doesn't sound like the best choice always, but it may just work if it isn't overly aggressive

pops pops
 
so a 130g tank. tank this size with Oscar, for me the oscar would be the feature fish. put a cat in or pleco, maybe some dollars. and done.
 
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