What would be the footprint size/length/width for a ray? I have other spaces in my house for wider and longer tanks but the people at my "local" aquarium store tell me a 50 gallon is good for 3 reticulated which I know is wrong.
Stocking Ideas?
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I also saw this fish (Not an Arowana) but looked like a tarpon. it was freshwater and they were about 15 cm. They were for sure not Arowana, i originally thought that they were baby Arowana being sold under a different name but I cannot for the life of me remember what they were called.
U wouldn't put anything larger than 16inches in a 2ft wide tank. There are people on this site that have 2+ foot long lungfish in 125s and they live very long lives. The just another fish keeper who tanks tank size too far
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Catfish are a big time favourite of mine, any larger species of cat that could have happy, content life inside this tank?
@ AQUAMONSTER - You have to realize however that a) lungfish are very flexible and b) a 2 foot lungfish is far from adult. Also, yes, there are people with 2'+ fish in 125 gallon tanks. And in my opinion, it is wrong. "He did it as well" is a bad excuse for doing things.
@ OP: I (and many others), would consider a 6' x 30" the minimal footprint for a ray, based on the fact that they will eventually grow to be at least 1' across and will have a tail to add to that.
In the end, if you feel it is ok (and are able to keep up with the maintenance), you can cram any size of fish in any size tank. I however feel that a fish should at the very least be able to turn around comfortably. Just a personal preference. Keep in mind that with overstocking comes trouble, such as oxygen depletion, higher nitrate levels, stress, etc.
As for catfish, there are many that could work. I personally find plecos highly interesting and that tank could house a few panaques comfortably or alternatively, you could stock it with meat eating plecos such as pseudacanthicus species or scobiancistrus aureatus. Alternatively, if you like catfish that swim a bit more, you could look at pimeloids, such as sorubim lima, Aguarunichthys torosus, pimelodus ornatus (or brachyplatystoma tigrinum by aquamonster's logic of cramming things into tight spaces). Since I sense that you are not interested in smaller fish, you might also look at the Auchenipteridae family. You could keep a few Asterophysus batrachus, but this would rule out most tank mates and leave the upper parts of the water column empty. I personally love the shape of ageneiosus species.
@ OP: I (and many others), would consider a 6' x 30" the minimal footprint for a ray, based on the fact that they will eventually grow to be at least 1' across and will have a tail to add to that.
In the end, if you feel it is ok (and are able to keep up with the maintenance), you can cram any size of fish in any size tank. I however feel that a fish should at the very least be able to turn around comfortably. Just a personal preference. Keep in mind that with overstocking comes trouble, such as oxygen depletion, higher nitrate levels, stress, etc.
As for catfish, there are many that could work. I personally find plecos highly interesting and that tank could house a few panaques comfortably or alternatively, you could stock it with meat eating plecos such as pseudacanthicus species or scobiancistrus aureatus. Alternatively, if you like catfish that swim a bit more, you could look at pimeloids, such as sorubim lima, Aguarunichthys torosus, pimelodus ornatus (or brachyplatystoma tigrinum by aquamonster's logic of cramming things into tight spaces). Since I sense that you are not interested in smaller fish, you might also look at the Auchenipteridae family. You could keep a few Asterophysus batrachus, but this would rule out most tank mates and leave the upper parts of the water column empty. I personally love the shape of ageneiosus species.
My first priority is making the tank's inhabitants are happy. If there is a fish I like but do not have the space I will gladly accept that and continue to find one that can be comfortable in the tank I am trying to stock.
Aguarunichthys torsos is the one I think I would enjoy the most. What type of tank mates (if any) would coexist with it with minimal or no squabbles
Aguarunichthys torsos is the one I think I would enjoy the most. What type of tank mates (if any) would coexist with it with minimal or no squabbles
From what I have heard A. torosus is like most pimeloids of it's size - peaceful. Pretty much anything not overly aggressive and too large to eat. You could combine it with bichirs, other catfish, peaceful cichlids, such as eartheaters, silver dollars, datnoids, ctenopoma, flagtail prochilodus, etc.
the big black Asian upside down cats. they are not the most common fish. Look them up.dont put any of those on that tank. Upside down cat is not an oddball. In that tank i would go with a smaller stingray, or a lungfish. I would prefer the lungfish and go south american lung as you can keep then with other fish.
I know what your talking about and they are not oddballs. My lfs had 3 yesterday when i went there
