When it comes to nitrates, nitrites and ammonia this is not the case according to Seachem: "Yes; Prime will detoxify ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate for 24-48 hours"
http://www.seachem.com/support/forums/showthread.php?t=3906
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When it comes to nitrates, nitrites and ammonia this is not the case according to Seachem: "Yes; Prime will detoxify ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate for 24-48 hours"
http://www.seachem.com/support/forums/showthread.php?t=3906
Here's someting I think everyone overlooked that I saw in the. Very first pic. The top of his water looks like a mirror.
You definitely need to get some major surface agitation going.
This is the surface of my tanks water
You definitely need to get some major surface agitation going.
This is the surface of my tanks water
the difference in time between doing 25% and 50% is really quite trivial, just a few extra minutes a week for much cleaner water
I'm pretty sure that means it is effective for that length of time. Meaning, if you were to dump ammonia or chlorine in your tank two days after you dosed with Prime, the Prime wouldn't just be floating around in your tank waiting to detoxify it. That doesn't mean that it reverts back. Once it dechlorinates or detoxifies your water, it should stay that way. The chlorine won't magically reappear after a couple days.
But yes, in the example you linked, the fish are constantly producing more ammonia and nitrite, so you'd continually have to add Prime in that example until the biological filter caught up with it.
Good point. People think doing a lg wc is bad, it isnt bad if the temps the same and dechlor is used
#1 S. Vettel
From Seachem Support:
"So why does the chemical bond that detoxifies ammonia, nitrite and nitrate fail after 24-48 hours?
It is perhaps a moot point in an established aquarium, but can be a large issue in a newer setup.
Would it be safe to add the recommended dose of Prime every 24 hours for an extended period?
Are there any negatives in doing this? In such a case, will the repeatedly dosed Prime become inert in the water chemistry?
Thanks for your attention.
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Re: Prime questions...
Thank you for your questions, Abbeysdad. All water conditioners only have the ability to bind to ammonia, nitrites and/or nitrates for a limited period of time; Prime actually will do this for a longer period than any other product available. You're correct; in an established tank, the beneficial bacteria will consume these things within this time period. However, in a new setup or cycling tank, we recommend dosing Prime every 48 hours to keep the ammonia/nitrites detoxified. As long as you are using Prime as directed, there is no harm in adding it this frequently for an extended period of time. Every 24 hours should not really be necessary, as it will remain active for up to 48 hours. We hope this answers your questions!"
http://www.seachem.info/support/forums/showthread.php?p=9723
Sorry but there's a difference between breaking the bonds of chlorine and chlorimine which permanently changes them and the binding of ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates. I have seen repeatedly where seachem support has said these are temporary bonds....
Sorry guys to change topic but Im curious with people like this OP and another thread I came across. I dont understand the lack of knowledge people have when it comes to carring for there fish, its understandable when you get a new tank and its not cycled and the chemistry is all out wack and fish die , you learn from it, fine. But years of having fish and you dont know the importance of water changes and the nitrogen cycle and all that fun stuff! Now a days there is this wonderful thing called Internet! It has loads of info on anything yoy can imagine! BEFORE I get interested in somthing I familiarize my self with the basics to insure everything goes smooth. So people put a little effort and do your research. IMO one of the most interesting things aside from the fish is to learn all about the hobby and not just plop some fish in a box and watch them kill.
Jason, thanks for posting that. I wasn't aware that Prime handled nitrites and ammonia differently than chlorine. Truthfully, most aquarists only use the Prime for chlorine/chloramine because we depend on our biological filtration to do the rest.
The OP's tank should have a good bacterial colony if he hasn't completely cleaned his filters, so that should be taking care of the ammonia/nitrite. But if the nitrate is as high as the test kit indicates (and I have no doubt that it is, considering the stocking density and lack of water changes) then it's probably the main cause of irritation with his fish. It's really bad for your fish at those levels.
The OP's tank should have a good bacterial colony if he hasn't completely cleaned his filters, so that should be taking care of the ammonia/nitrite. But if the nitrate is as high as the test kit indicates (and I have no doubt that it is, considering the stocking density and lack of water changes) then it's probably the main cause of irritation with his fish. It's really bad for your fish at those levels.
