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I had four of the Eastern blacknosed dace and am now down to one. Three of them died with, what I think was, a disease outbreak. One of them was a colored up male. I used to catch and keep these as a kid from the creek near my house. I forgot how much I liked them, despite them being the most common minnow species in our area. They really are a fun fish to keep. I can't wait to get out and collect more of them.

Are you planning to add more fish to your tank? Darters? What species would you like to add?
 

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Not sure on what other I am going to add. I would love darters but the only one we have here is swamp darters which are endangered in the state so that is a no go. Our laws are pretty strict up here, so I don't think they would let me import other species. I will probably add a few more dace or maybe put some Northern Red Belly Dace in there.
 
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Not sure on what other I am going to add. I would love darters but the only one we have here is swamp darters which are endangered in the state so that is a no go. Our laws are pretty strict up here, so I don't think they would let me import other species. I will probably add a few more dace or maybe put some Northern Red Belly Dace in there.
Dace are very cool, and the Northern Red Belly Dace would add a nice splash of color too. If you want darters, and if you're OK with having species from other areas, there are a few vendors that sell them. Two vendors that come to mind are Zimmerman's and Jonah's Aquarium. There may be others. Of course, this depends on your local laws and if those vendors can sell to your state.
 

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Dace are very cool, and the Northern Red Belly Dace would add a nice splash of color too. If you want darters, and if you're OK with having species from other areas, there are a few vendors that sell them. Two vendors that come to mind are Zimmerman's and Jonah's Aquarium. There may be others. Of course, this depends on your local laws and if those vendors can sell to your state.
Although I could catch my own or pay someone I chose to purchase Rainbow and Greenside Darters from Jonahsaquarium and very pleased I did business with him. The Darters were very well packed on time fish were extremely healthy. Hopefully it's legal for Itsadeepbluesea Itsadeepbluesea to have them. Rainbow Darters would look great in that aquarium.
 

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Dace are very cool, and the Northern Red Belly Dace would add a nice splash of color too. If you want darters, and if you're OK with having species from other areas, there are a few vendors that sell them. Two vendors that come to mind are Zimmerman's and Jonah's Aquarium. There may be others. Of course, this depends on your local laws and if those vendors can sell to your state.
I have been thinking about contacting the state. They are pretty strict on what they allow. My guess is they will say no, but it may be worth asking. I was considering getting a Cosae Bass several years ago but when I contacted them to find out if they would approve it, they stated I could try to apply but would most likely be denied as I was not a bio-secure facility. I'm guessing the same would happen with darters. But it may be worth asking again.
 
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Although I could catch my own or pay someone I chose to purchase Rainbow and Greenside Darters from Jonahsaquarium and very pleased I did business with him. The Darters were very well packed on time fish were extremely healthy. Hopefully it's legal for Itsadeepbluesea Itsadeepbluesea to have them. Rainbow Darters would look great in that aquarium.
Thanks, they are the ones I would go through if I ever got permission. I was thinking rainbow darter as well. Unfortunately we have a unrestricted species list here rather than a restricted species list. If it isn't on the unrestricted species list you have to have a special permit to have it. Unfortunately the list is rather short, particularly for anything that could survive in our waters.
 

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That's a bummer. I hope you get permission to get what you want. Best of luck with that. May I ask what State? I understand if you don't want to share.
 

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That's a bummer. I hope you get permission to get what you want. Best of luck with that. May I ask what State? I understand if you don't want to share.
Maine
 
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Here is the general description of our laws involving wildlife:

1. Unrestricted List (PDF) (no permit needed): Maine law allows the Department to maintain a list of species of fish and wildlife, including tropical fish and invertebrates, which do not require an importation, exhibition, or possession permit, and may be traded by commercial pet shops. Unrestricted Species must be maintained in a humane and safe manner that does not jeopardize public health and safety, the welfare of the animal, or cause a public disturbance.

2. Prohibited Species (cannot be possessed with or without a permit, exceptions apply): No permit shall be granted for prohibited species which the commissioner, in consultation with the captive wildlife technical committee have determined pose a significant risk to Maine's native flora and fauna, to the public welfare or to domestic animals. The commissioner may make an exception and authorize limited possession of these species by accredited research facilities in cases where there is a significant public benefit. The Prohibited Species List is located within section 7.18.

  • Red-eared slider (Trachemys scripta);
  • Monk parakeet (Myiopsitta monachus);
  • Mute swan (Cygnus olor);
  • African clawed frog (Xenopus laevis).
3. Restricted Species (Permit is required to possess): Restricted Species shall require a permit before the species can be possessed, imported, exhibited, propagated, or rehabilitated. For both Categories of Restricted Species there are multiple credentials that must be met in order to qualify for a permit to possess the species.There are two categories of restricted species, see description below:

  • Category 1 Restricted Species: A species is placed in Category 1 when:
  • It does not meet the criteria of a Prohibited Species and when:
    It is included on the U.S. list of endangered or threatened species, is listed in Appendix I of the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species, is listed by the International Union for the Conservation of Nature as ‘Endangered, ‘Critically Endangered’ or Extinct in the Wild or is state listed as Endangered or Threatened across a significant portion of its native range; or
    It is known to harbor an agent substantially harmful to humans, domestic livestock, poultry, native wildlife, other animals, or Maine flora; or
    It has a geographic distribution and life requisites that would allow it to survive in Maine if accidentally or intentionally introduced into the wild; or
    It is included on the USFWS list of Injurious Species; or
    It is capable of inflicting serious bodily injury to humans; or
    It has unique requirements for housing or care that cannot be provided outside of professionally designed and operated facilities.
To possess a Category 1 Restricted Species a person must acquire either an exhibitor's or wildlife rehabilitator's permit or must be an accredited research facility or be a laboratory registered with the United States Department of Agriculture.
  • Category 2 Restricted Species:A species is placed in Category 2 when:
    It does not meet the criteria of a Prohibited Species or Category 1 Restricted Species and when:
    It requires special housing or care that cannot be provided by persons without training or experience; or
    It requires a special commitment to ensure proper care and welfare.
    To possess a Category 2 Restricted Species a person must acquire either an exhibitor's or wildlife rehabilitator's permit or must be an accredited research facility or be a laboratory registered with the United States Department of Agriculture.
4. Unclassified Species: A person may not possess any species that has not been categorized. Any species which has not been identified as a Prohibited, Restricted, or Unrestricted species will not be eligible for a permit however a request may be made to review the categorization of a species.

5. Requests to Review or Change the Categorization of a Species: must be made on application forms provided by the department. Requests should be mailed to Wildlife Division Inland Fisheries & Wildlife 284 State Street Augusta, ME 04330. Applicants shall bear the burden of proof in proving that a species belongs in the requested category. Applications submitted with supporting documentation are evaluated by the commissioner or commissioner's designee and the Technical Committee.

A. Commissioner's Evaluation Criteria for Review of Requests to Change Categorization of a Species: Considering the recommendations of the Technical Consulting Committee, which are advisory in nature, the commissioner may change the status of a species according to the criteria established in this section.

B. Notification: When the commissioner approves or denies a request for review of categorization, a written notification will be sent to the applicant. When the commissioner denies a request, the department will advise the individual or entity making the request of the basis for the denial.
 

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Here is the general description of our laws involving wildlife:

1. Unrestricted List (PDF) (no permit needed): Maine law allows the Department to maintain a list of species of fish and wildlife, including tropical fish and invertebrates, which do not require an importation, exhibition, or possession permit, and may be traded by commercial pet shops. Unrestricted Species must be maintained in a humane and safe manner that does not jeopardize public health and safety, the welfare of the animal, or cause a public disturbance.

2. Prohibited Species (cannot be possessed with or without a permit, exceptions apply): No permit shall be granted for prohibited species which the commissioner, in consultation with the captive wildlife technical committee have determined pose a significant risk to Maine's native flora and fauna, to the public welfare or to domestic animals. The commissioner may make an exception and authorize limited possession of these species by accredited research facilities in cases where there is a significant public benefit. The Prohibited Species List is located within section 7.18.

  • Red-eared slider (Trachemys scripta);
  • Monk parakeet (Myiopsitta monachus);
  • Mute swan (Cygnus olor);
  • African clawed frog (Xenopus laevis).
3. Restricted Species (Permit is required to possess): Restricted Species shall require a permit before the species can be possessed, imported, exhibited, propagated, or rehabilitated. For both Categories of Restricted Species there are multiple credentials that must be met in order to qualify for a permit to possess the species.There are two categories of restricted species, see description below:

  • Category 1 Restricted Species: A species is placed in Category 1 when:

  • Category 2 Restricted Species:A species is placed in Category 2 when:

    To possess a Category 2 Restricted Species a person must acquire either an exhibitor's or wildlife rehabilitator's permit or must be an accredited research facility or be a laboratory registered with the United States Department of Agriculture.
4. Unclassified Species: A person may not possess any species that has not been categorized. Any species which has not been identified as a Prohibited, Restricted, or Unrestricted species will not be eligible for a permit however a request may be made to review the categorization of a species.

5. Requests to Review or Change the Categorization of a Species: must be made on application forms provided by the department. Requests should be mailed to Wildlife Division Inland Fisheries & Wildlife 284 State Street Augusta, ME 04330. Applicants shall bear the burden of proof in proving that a species belongs in the requested category. Applications submitted with supporting documentation are evaluated by the commissioner or commissioner's designee and the Technical Committee.

A. Commissioner's Evaluation Criteria for Review of Requests to Change Categorization of a Species: Considering the recommendations of the Technical Consulting Committee, which are advisory in nature, the commissioner may change the status of a species according to the criteria established in this section.

B. Notification: When the commissioner approves or denies a request for review of categorization, a written notification will be sent to the applicant. When the commissioner denies a request, the department will advise the individual or entity making the request of the basis for the denial.
Well thats a big oof to bad you cant have to many fish without a permit
 
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