Sump bio media

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In regards to sock plus floss, it depends on what micron the sock or floss is. For example I run 100 micron sock then 50 micron floss but like I said I may try a 50 micron sock then I could ditch the floss. But I'm curious how much faster it will plug up or if it will plug up much in my system.

Also because I have matrix and a marine pure bioblock I run floss after them before the pumps because of potential crumble or small pieces to keep out of my pumps. If I used ceramic, lava rock, or anything else I would still do it just to protect my pumps.

Even if the floss is not needed after the sock it does house BB, not as well as matrix but it doesn't hurt you. Same with matala mat, it's coarse as heck but I use it to help hold things or prop stuff up or spacers.

Example of using things for more then 1 purpose- for my sump it is a diy out of a 55 gallon tote, pipes go in through the top of tote and then I have a 5 gallon bucket with lid and the sock is in a hole in the lid. So if the sock plugs up water will flow off the top of the bucket inside the sump still as opposed to a sock in the lid of the tote then plugging and it will flood my floor. The bottom of the bucket has a ton of holes and inside the bucket I have medium foam on the very bottom then floss above. The floss would suck to the holes and not let the water pass through as well vs having something coarse under the floss. The bucket sits on top of matala mat to elevate it off the bottom of the sump.
After all my matrix and marinepure I have matala mat zip tied to a 1/2" pvc base to hold it up and then floss all the way across the sump that drapes over the matala mat to hold it in place and tucks under and around the edges of the bags of matrix so water can't bypass it, then my pumps hide behind.
 
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Well that sounds quite practical, but I've never tried matala.

In my 30g sump I have two rectangular 5g buckets with holes in the bottom, and my floss is in plastic pond baskets hung in the tops. No sock, but bio-media is in the buckets, bleow floss, and they sit on lava

I eventually just cut away a lot of the lower buckets, and put my ceramic bio-media in mesh bags. I had made hundreds of little 1/4" holes in those buckets and I just wound up with hundreds of little clogging holes to clean. The undirected flow of the big holes doesn't seem to be an issue.

I do backflush my sump a bit every month to rinse the bio-media a little. It's on my patio outdoors which makes it easier to deal with cleaning. It serves a heavily populated 55 and a 125 and alone would probably be marginal without the attached sand filter. (The system has air lift sponges as well. All 4 of my systems do. Air is my backup plan.)

I am so digging my fluidized sand filter, that I want to make two more. I have an 80g and 90g system using similar sumps: floss over bio-media/lava + foam. Currently I have a consumer type 3lb sand filter external to my 30g sump. I have a 20 sump and 40 sump and want to make sand filters internal to them. They are so cool, unless they clog. Mine only clogged once, when the pump hose came slightly loose, PLUS the power went off long enough for a back-siphon thru the leak, at the same time.
 
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Hi everyone. This is my current setup but i am not happy with the water readings. Most of my friends suggest that i re-positioning the bio rod vertically and some even suggested that i change to Biohome. Comments anyone?
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Bio media is just a surface area for your tanks bacterial population to live on.
That population reflects the average amount of ammonia put out by the fish at any time.
Too little bio media surface area for your tanks stocking level could be problematic.
But a larger amount of bio media won't grow more bacteria than the amount of ammonia your tanks stocking level produces.

And the excess nitrate is not taken care of by bio media, water changes (in a practical sense) are the only way to reduce (dilute) nitrate.
Of course plants, algae, or a separate low flow anoxic nitrate reactor can reduce nitrate but.....
"Less" toxic Nitrate is a direct result of the action of the bacterial population in bio media .

The idea that any one type bio media is any better than another, is highly exaggerated.
 
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I agree with duanes, but to add to it the only way 1 media can truly be better then another (imo) is smaller size with more area to grow the bacteria if space is limited. Otherwise I error on the side of have a little more media needed and then know your tank. Knowing how much you feed, nitrate produced, and water changes needed. There's no magic number to be safe because every stocking, feeding, and system is different. I have tanks that need 40% change each week and some that need 25%. I tend to do more then the minimum because it's better for the fish anyways.

Adding an overhead hydroponics system will do better for your tank then changing your media. I use cobalt aquatic mj1200's to pump water to a planter box of lava rock with Chinese evergreen and pothos. Get some high light on those plants or daylight from a window and it will help you tremendously. Either a grow bulb or a 5-6500k daylight high lumen led set up. In some cases I have used clip on desk lamps with highest watt led bulbs I can for the fixture and run more then 1 fixtures on timers. All in all less then $100 and you should be able to do it. And replacing any significant amount of your media with biohome would prob cost more then that.

My 2 cents

The only other option would be anoxic filtration with a biocenosis basket. I have not done this yet, I am working on setting up a new tank then moving stock and once an old tank is freed up I will try this as an experiment. But this takes quite some time to establish and no matter what I read about I personally feel it doesn't 100% replace water changes, fish need trace elements found in water. So even if this reduced nitrates I would still do water changes.
 
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. . . it doesn't 100% replace water changes, fish need trace elements found in water. . . .

And just as well, they need to eliminate some elements too.
The more polluted and brackish the water gets the tougher it is to do so.
 
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