Sump for my 180 Cichla tank

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Joey822

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Here's some pics of my 40 gallon sump for my 180 gallon Cichla tank. Tell me if I need to change anything!!!:p

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the whole point of bioballs is for wet/dry. yours will be submerged and there are better choices for submerged media.sintered glass, alfa grog, poret, or porous ceramic would all be better.
looks like lots of wasted space...fill it with media, plants, or algae-if you don't already plan to.
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I don't know what you have planned, but at the very least it's going to be hard to keep it there against the flow of water.

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Also to what Bill Blue said:

1) add additional mechanical before the bio media (a simple sponge would work) since socks will clog and over flow.
2) Add something like a pegboard to distribute the water over the bio media.
3) Also, if this is drawn to scale, what Gill said applies.
4) what size filter pads are you using and do you have open spaces between them and how are you going to clean them?
5) I don't know what the items are that have green arrows. You don't want to restrict flow there, I think. If that means it's an opening, then ignore me.
 
if u don't mind, can u put a sump layout, on paint or if u have a sump n ur tank that is very secsessful and u post pics,
the whole point of bioballs is for wet/dry. yours will be submerged and there are better choices for submerged media.sintered glass, alfa grog, poret, or porous ceramic would all be better.
looks like lots of wasted space...fill it with media, plants, or algae-if you don't already plan to.
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I don't know what you have planned, but at the very least it's going to be hard to keep it there against the flow of water.
 
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I like the changes.

1) What is the last set of filtration to the left of the last bio balls? Is that more mechanical?
2) Now that you have more bio media later, I'm not so concerned about the first set not getting added mechanical filtration right below the sock.

A couple future thoughts:

1) as you use the sump, if you see debris collecting in the bio balls under the sock, clean them off (with tank water), re-insert them, then add a sponge right above them. That should help.
2) If you find your water parameters are not what you want (too high or taking too long to clear up), then consider adding some Seachem Matrix to the sump. (Add it, don't toss any existing media.) You still have some nice space on the left side and you can drop in some Matrix inside a mesh bag on the bottom before the pump.
3) If the sponge media is actually jammed together and starts getting clogged, you could have issues, so examine that as a regular thing. You'll have BB on it, and you can just rinse off individual sponges as they get dirty. Most of your BB will still be on the bio balls, so no worries there if you wash it off the sponges, just avoid water with chlorine when you wash them.
 
I like the changes.

1) What is the last set of filtration to the left of the last bio balls? Is that more mechanical?
2) Now that you have more bio media later, I'm not so concerned about the first set not getting added mechanical filtration right below the sock.

A couple future thoughts:

1) as you use the sump, if you see debris collecting in the bio balls under the sock, clean them off (with tank water), re-insert them, then add a sponge right above them. That should help.
2) If you find your water parameters are not what you want (too high or taking too long to clear up), then consider adding some Seachem Matrix to the sump. (Add it, don't toss any existing media.) You still have some nice space on the left side and you can drop in some Matrix inside a mesh bag on the bottom before the pump.
3) If the sponge media is actually jammed together and starts getting clogged, you could have issues, so examine that as a regular thing. You'll have BB on it, and you can just rinse off individual sponges as they get dirty. Most of your BB will still be on the bio balls, so no worries there if you wash it off the sponges, just avoid water with chlorine when you wash them.

Hey thinks man and the first question: What is the last set of filtration to the left of the last bio balls? Is that more mechanical?

Yes those r just cheap filter pads to.help with any large items and just a little filtration. And I just might add some matrix in there, not a bad idea, thx. Goin to get the supplies tommarow:D so exited, clear tank and no hassel with bad water after this


Fingures crossed;)

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