Sump? What?

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importracer;4869652;4869652 said:
How can this be a wet dry filter?!?!?The cermaic tubes are constantly underwater........:ROFL:
It's not a wet/dry, never said it was :) Just because there's a tank of water underneath the aquarium doen't mean it's a wet/dry ;)
 
I only *wish* I had seen this thread earlier. The reason you see Jose's sump pic all of the time is because it is a great example of how simple and effective sump filtration can be. There are many designs out there, but this one works very well. People ask for pics or ideas, and it appears. No reason it shouldn't. The next set of pics you'll see all the time? A Herbie setup, mark my words! (Jose, pics incoming. I'm working on my plumbing right now, actually).

My own sumps are a little different, but still very similar because the aesthetics of the sump vary, but the principle is the same. I put a piece of acrylic on the rim of a 29g, and drilled 3.5" holes in to accommodate the filter socks I use. I use larger ceramic media that I purchased from a vendor here.
 
I have built the most basic and effiecient DIY wet/dry.........It has been proven and built by many others on this forum........It is the 3-DRAWER DIY W/D Filter........Mine cost me under $80 to build for a 125g........Go to TARGET and purchase a $8-10 50-60g plastic storage container....Then look for a plastic 3-drawer setup........They usually run for $8-14.......You can try the OFFICE DEPOT if not there.......Get some filter floss at the lfs(local fish store), $10.......Instead of expensive bio-balls, purchase a bunch of sponges to filll the bottom two drawers, $20-30........The pump I always go with is the RIO pump, my pump cost me $80 for the 125g..........I went with an overflow that cost me $40............The PVC piping and joints cost me under $15........So really, a DIY for a 125g totals to just under $150, as compared to $300-600.......
 
Clay;4869663; said:
A Herbie setup, mark my words! (Jose, pics incoming. I'm working on my plumbing right now, actually).

Patiently waiting ha! Speaking of which, got my 3 holes drilled for my Beananimal system. Drilling the first hole in the glass was a little nerve wracking, but it's not bad at all!
 
importracer;4869669; said:
I have built the most basic and effiecient DIY wet/dry.........It has been proven and built by many others on this forum........It is the 3-DRAWER DIY W/D Filter........Mine cost me under $80 to build for a 125g........Go to TARGET and purchase a $8-10 50-60g plastic storage container....Then look for a plastic 3-drawer setup........They usually run for $8-14.......You can try the OFFICE DEPOT if not there.......Get some filter floss at the lfs(local fish store), $10.......Instead of expensive bio-balls, purchase a bunch of sponges to filll the bottom two drawers, $20-30........The pump I always go with is the RIO pump, my pump cost me $80 for the 125g..........

That's a good basic design, and easy to build, but the reason it wouldn't work for me:
- My main requirement is that my sump/overflow is SILENT. This won't really work unless you have the drain lines submerged and aren't dripping water over your media.

- It must be able to use filter socks, as this is the BEST mechanical filtration you can get in a sump. Filter pads are nowhere near as good at mechanical filtration

- I like my setups to be solid and permanent. I don't really like the idea of plastic containers and storage drawers. This is cutting corners IMO, which is something I don't like to do with filtration and plumbing.
These setups are cool because they are easy to setup, but 'best and most effecient' is a strech, in my opinion. There's really is nothing easier than getting an old glass tank and dropping in a basket or laundry bag full of ceramic media. But like I said, the purpose of ANY filter is to remove ammonia and nitrites. If it works for you and you're happy, then awesome!
 
Carfree_Dude;4869749;4869749 said:
So would my plan to turn your sump idea into a wet/dry work?
What do you mean?
 
The post I made explaining on how I could use a Y connector off the return pump to put water back into the sump, and make it go through wet/dry filter media in the process. Or, having a small pump just for doing this.



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Carfree_Dude;4866833; said:
Hey, I came up with a genius or very stupid idea! I read that many sumps have a y valve after the return pump to help regulate how much water is returned. One end goes to the tank, the other back into the sump. Why not put a hanging basket with bio balls or another wet dry material where the water goes back into the sump at? Or get another smaller pump for this purpose? It would be like, "yo dawg, I heard you like sumps so I put a sump in yo sump so you can filter while you filter!"
 
Carfree_Dude;4869813;4869813 said:
The post I made explaining on how I could use a Y connector off the return pump to put water back into the sump, and make it go through wet/dry filter media in the process. Or, having a small pump just for doing this.



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Oh just saw that. Honetly I don't really see people doing that, and I don't see a need for it. If it's to reduce flow, you can throttle down the pump by simply adding a valve to AFTER the ouput to reduce some of its flow. There is really no reason to divert some of the water back to the filter, unless you were going to run it into a UV light.
 
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