Super Reds??
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This post made by jp80911 in another thread explains it
Technically wild red and super red are the same, as wild reds are wild caught and super reds are also wild caught, so wild red can be super red, it's all up to how the dealer wants to call them.
Super red is the common name used for the fish from Peru, but as dealer can call them whatever they want and you won't really know where it came from unless you put the fish out of the river yourself.
In the end, what I was trying to say is that they are all pygo. nattereri, there's no difference between them other than how they color when they were pull out of the river.
same applies to Terns, just a different color morph of pygocentrus nattereri.
from OPEFE
http://opefe.com/nattereri.html
COMMENTS ABOUT SUPER REDS OR SNAKESKIN Pygocentrus nattereri BY FRANK MAGALLANES
The common name Super Red is meaningless for any specific P. nattereri since these fish can be highly colored in dark red or reddish-orange within its range. The common name has been applied to fish from Peru. A look at the geographical forms of P. nattereri can show that some are more brilliant than others. This color can also be lost during the fishes growth in your aquarium or a dealer's tank as the fish matures. The dealer who coined that name for his fish was probably unaware (at the time) this name could apply to a number of species. It is a relatively new name in the piranha hobby and it is indeed foolish to just attach it to just one locality of P. nattereri.
As for the reticulated P. nattereri, this feature is found on some but not all of the fishes from the middle Amazon. If one wanted to call this a Snakeskin, then that would be fine for a common name so long as the person understands that feature is eventually lost behind the brilliant scales. For some unknown reason, this name was eventually grouped with Super Red. Again its value is a minor concern. The real value in these wild fishes is the fact they are wild and can replenish a diminished gene pool if you are into breeding piranhas. Some people collect solely for their beauty (which is what I do). Others because they are "wild" and in that there is value.
The important thing for everyone to remember is BE INFORMED and don't blame dealers if they use a common name. It's up to you, the consumer, to know the difference.
http://opefe.com/nattereri_2.html
Technically wild red and super red are the same, as wild reds are wild caught and super reds are also wild caught, so wild red can be super red, it's all up to how the dealer wants to call them.
Super red is the common name used for the fish from Peru, but as dealer can call them whatever they want and you won't really know where it came from unless you put the fish out of the river yourself.
In the end, what I was trying to say is that they are all pygo. nattereri, there's no difference between them other than how they color when they were pull out of the river.
same applies to Terns, just a different color morph of pygocentrus nattereri.
from OPEFE
http://opefe.com/nattereri.html
COMMENTS ABOUT SUPER REDS OR SNAKESKIN Pygocentrus nattereri BY FRANK MAGALLANES
The common name Super Red is meaningless for any specific P. nattereri since these fish can be highly colored in dark red or reddish-orange within its range. The common name has been applied to fish from Peru. A look at the geographical forms of P. nattereri can show that some are more brilliant than others. This color can also be lost during the fishes growth in your aquarium or a dealer's tank as the fish matures. The dealer who coined that name for his fish was probably unaware (at the time) this name could apply to a number of species. It is a relatively new name in the piranha hobby and it is indeed foolish to just attach it to just one locality of P. nattereri.
As for the reticulated P. nattereri, this feature is found on some but not all of the fishes from the middle Amazon. If one wanted to call this a Snakeskin, then that would be fine for a common name so long as the person understands that feature is eventually lost behind the brilliant scales. For some unknown reason, this name was eventually grouped with Super Red. Again its value is a minor concern. The real value in these wild fishes is the fact they are wild and can replenish a diminished gene pool if you are into breeding piranhas. Some people collect solely for their beauty (which is what I do). Others because they are "wild" and in that there is value.
The important thing for everyone to remember is BE INFORMED and don't blame dealers if they use a common name. It's up to you, the consumer, to know the difference.
http://opefe.com/nattereri_2.html
that's baisically it. the p. natts from peru tend to have more color so some dealers call them super reds. its just one way that they charge you more money for the same fish...
jp80911;3137776; said:
Cool thanks for sharing that. I always assumed that SRBP's were a different species all together. Mainly due to the fact that a SRBP cost twice as much as a regular RBP by some breeders, so I took it as they were rare or harder to get.
i heard and read from several sources that super reds are from a different collection point than the normal reds and terns which are also natt's, so they are different in a way thats why they cost more plus you can tell by there colors it's a brighter red on the supers
Water Wolf;3137956; said:Cool thanks for sharing that. I always assumed that SRBP's were a different species all together. Mainly due to the fact that a SRBP cost twice as much as a regular RBP by some breeders, so I took it as they were rare or harder to get.
well, they are harder to come by compare to captive bred rbps and because they fly international, the plane tickets are more expensive than the local ones that fly domestic.
but is it worth the extra pay is up to individuals.jp80911;3144152; said:well, they are harder to come by compare to captive bred rbps and because they fly international, the plane tickets are more expensive than the local ones that fly domestic.
They are different it just isn't the price there from diff places too how are you calling them the same
Super reds (snakeskin) are different than wild red bellies. They are both wild but the collection point is different. Its night and day if you look at pics.