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fishyjoe26;3181599; said:
because I don't know how to save them right, from a email. I tried to save them
and it didn't work. I think I'm going to be starting the tank over,and that he will be starting his tank over :(.

Hillbilly, did I miss something, or is this where the bio filter destruction came from?
 
It may have been in another post, but he shut down his filter while he changed from gravel to sand for who knows how long, and has had major water quality problems ever since.
 
fishyjoe26;3182658; said:
now I'm having a problem with my own discus, 5 are died in the 135. the signs my discus are showing are they all are closely swimming together close to the top, there fins are moving fast,losing color, and some of them got what looks like cut marks. it seems mine have some type of infection.

Five died in the 135? How many are left? Did you start over? How did you start over?
 
hillbilly;3183680; said:
It may have been in another post, but he shut down his filter while he changed from gravel to sand for who knows how long, and has had major water quality problems ever since.


Man, how many times have we all made a huge change like that? Again a double dose of Prime and 50-75% water changes a day will eliminate this. I still feel like some information is being left out.
 
Bobears;3183701; said:
Man, how many times have we all made a huge change like that? Again a double dose of Prime and 50-75% water changes a day will eliminate this. I still feel like some information is being left out.

I know, it's hard to follow.
 
Bobears;3183651; said:
How long has it been since these discus were introduced to the tank? Did they go straight to the tank? What other fish are in the tank? 50-75% water changes everyday should stop this water quality problem if that's it. I happen to think you have other issues and we may not have asked you the right questions. What is in that 135 and are we talking gallons? 5 discus is nothing for a 135gal, or even 10 sub adult. Have you done something you not saying?

I had it set up for 6-8 months, then the fx5 went hey-wire and spit out the carbon on to the gravel. so I bought a 55 gallon set that up with some of the bio-max from the fx5 I put the discus in the 55 gallon everything was fine.
took out all the water, and gravel.so to get the carbon out I drained the 135(yes gallons a 135 gallon tank)kept the fx5 wet added pool filter sand, new water and put prime and stability in there. I keep getting it test, no not ready. then 2 1/2 -3 weeks later(which was a week ago) I went to a discus breeder shop, and got the water tested and they tested it with those electric pen probs and the wife said everything was good but the ph, then after 5 mins. the ph reading dropped from 7.5 to 7.0 I said is that ok, and she said yes. so when I got home, I put the discus(35) from the 55G in the 135.(sold some of them and got my total count of discus down to around 20) everything was going fine. oh before the discus I put 10 bumble bee catfish in there. everything was going fine. then I ran out of flake food I was feeding tetra min, I picked up hagen flake food and ocean nutrition discus formula and feed the discus that stuff along with sanfrinsico(spelling?) bay bloodworms and beefheart. as so as I started feeding the different flake and added the discus formula is when they started to act weird. there is also this white jello looking stuff on the net. there 2 - 250 watt hearts on one side of the tank next to the outtake where the water returns from the canister.
I have a corallife digital read out themometer but it's going heywire.
so I've been using one of those float around at the bottom it reads 85.
86-87 if I leave the lights on for a long time.

is it possible that the benifical bacteria died off from not having oxagen? or is it possible the wife didn't do the test right with those prob pens. because I walked in the store and said I need my water tested and she goes it's for discus right, and I said yes I'll be in the back looking at the fish.
then 5 mins later she comes back and says everything is fine but your ph is 7.5 it needs to be 7.0 that is what we keep are discus at. so then I walked up to the counter and she still had the ph pen probe in the water and its reading dropped to 7.0 she said oh look at that the ph is 7.0 you're good to go, so I said I can add discus, she said yes you can add discus. I'm guessing this was a bad move, and should indecateded something since the ph droped .5 in 5mins?
 
Bobears;3183692; said:
Five died in the 135? How many are left? Did you start over? How did you start over?

no I didn't start over there are still 11 discus in the 135G(84x16x24)
so 50-75% water change everyday for how many days? double the dose of prime?
 
look down by the gills, my discus that died had what ever that thing is by the gills, and no I did not by my discus from this place(cichlidstation).
I got my discus from a local breeder/fish shop.

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hillbilly;3182732; said:
I would euthanize the fish in the photos. Without a lot more information, I can't really say for certain what may be wrong with your fish, but I would bet it's water quality related.

Wait why? The photos are too blurry to tell anything as far as pitting or swelling. I've seen plenty of discus with that color pattern. Often reffed to as peach discus.
 
fishyjoe26;3184121; said:
look down by the gills, my discus that died had what ever that thing is by the gills, and no I did not by my discus from this place(cichlidstation).
I got my discus from a local breeder/fish shop.

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From what you described, and from the photo above, there is little doubt this is the result of ammonia or nitrite poisoning. Note the red, purplish, swollen gills. No doubt a lot of damage has been done to the fish's organs. Keep doing large water changes (can't stress this enough) with double doses of Prime until you get this under control. You are probably lucky all your fish didn't die, but they still could.
 
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