take this invasive species!!!!

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LRM;4115109;4115109 said:
Cut em up for bait, leave them on the land, bury them for compost. Do anything you want with them unless it is to toss them back. Invasives are bad news.

Whoever it was that was trying to explain how they aren't a problem, how exactly are you an authority on this?

Think about it this way, the ecosystems that exist developed over the course of billions of years of competition. When you take an organism and put it into an alien environment you do one of two things. You either screw that animal because it cannot compete or you give it heaven on earth because it can out compete much of what is already there. The bottom line is you are creating novel ecosystems that have never existed before and regardless of what you think you may know, you really don't know jack about how the native environment is going to respond now ten years from now or a hundred years down the road.

Did you know that according to the Dept. of Agriculture that invasives are the single greatest threat to our native ecosystems. Were you aware that more money is spent on managing them than on any other ecological threat in the country per year?

Think before you speak champ, you'll come off sounding a lot more intelligent.
I agree...I think alot of times peoples emotions overrule theyre common sense.
 
LRM;4115109; said:
Did you know that according to the Dept. of Agriculture that invasives are the single greatest threat to our native ecosystems. Were you aware that more money is spent on managing them than on any other ecological threat in the country per year?

What money is spent on managing invasive cichlids?

And maybe they wouldn't have such a hard time managing the native ecosystem if development wasn't so rampant. You need to go after the source...as development allows some invasive species to flourish.
 
krzr3000;4115131; said:
What money is spent on managing invasive cichlids?

And maybe they wouldn't have such a hard time managing the native ecosystem if development wasn't so rampant. You need to go after the source...as development allows some invasive species to flourish.

This.
Development is FAR FAR more threatening than any invasive species.
 
LRM;4115109; said:
Cut em up for bait, leave them on the land, bury them for compost. Do anything you want with them unless it is to toss them back. Invasives are bad news.

Whoever it was that was trying to explain how they aren't a problem, how exactly are you an authority on this?

Think about it this way, the ecosystems that exist developed over the course of billions of years of competition. When you take an organism and put it into an alien environment you do one of two things. You either screw that animal because it cannot compete or you give it heaven on earth because it can out compete much of what is already there. The bottom line is you are creating novel ecosystems that have never existed before and regardless of what you think you may know, you really don't know jack about how the native environment is going to respond now ten years from now or a hundred years down the road.

Did you know that according to the Dept. of Agriculture that invasives are the single greatest threat to our native ecosystems. Were you aware that more money is spent on managing them than on any other ecological threat in the country per year?

Think before you speak champ, you'll come off sounding a lot more intelligent.

And how exactly are you an Authority on the South Florida Ecsystems? Guess what? They aren't Ecosystems anymore..........

They are man made, development driven, pitiful versions of what they once were.......How do I know? I'm there on a daily basis.......The Invasives eat Invasives, the Natives eat both the Natives and the Invasives........It's all balanced out......Half ass, but as balanced as its ever going to be......The damage has been done, and restoration projects fail miserably and the restoration is secondary to the agenda the money was for to begin with.......

More money is spent on the politics of these South Florida "Ecosystems" than any management project South Floriduh has.........
 
EricIvins;4116314; said:
And how exactly are you an Authority on the South Florida Ecsystems? Guess what? They aren't Ecosystems anymore..........

They are man made, development driven, pitiful versions of what they once were.......How do I know? I'm there on a daily basis.......The Invasives eat Invasives, the Natives eat both the Natives and the Invasives........It's all balanced out......Half ass, but as balanced as its ever going to be......The damage has been done, and restoration projects fail miserably and the restoration is secondary to the agenda the money was for to begin with.......

More money is spent on the politics of these South Florida "Ecosystems" than any management project South Floriduh has.........


I hope the oil doesn't reach the Florida beaches .

I was watching on news that in many of the marsh areas certain marine fish are breeding. They are not sure if the oil could reach certain marsh areas.
 
Ah, I miss FL. I used to catch all kinds of weird things there... Still catch all kinds of weird things here. Pacu, Oscars, Hoplos, AU crayfish, etc. I'm waiting to add Snakeheads to that, I keep seeing them pop up for sale in the local and neighboring Craigslist, bound to end up in my fishing areas sooner or later.

Anyway, take pics next time... it'd be cool to see what you're catching.
 
Cut em up for bait, leave them on the land, bury them for compost. Do anything you want with them unless it is to toss them back. Invasives are bad news.

Whoever it was that was trying to explain how they aren't a problem, how exactly are you an authority on this?

Think about it this way, the ecosystems that exist developed over the course of billions of years of competition. When you take an organism and put it into an alien environment you do one of two things. You either screw that animal because it cannot compete or you give it heaven on earth because it can out compete much of what is already there. The bottom line is you are creating novel ecosystems that have never existed before and regardless of what you think you may know, you really don't know jack about how the native environment is going to respond now ten years from now or a hundred years down the road.

Did you know that according to the Dept. of Agriculture that invasives are the single greatest threat to our native ecosystems. Were you aware that more money is spent on managing them than on any other ecological threat in the country per year?

Think before you speak champ, you'll come off sounding a lot more intelligent.

completly bull**** and senseless waste of money. invasive species do not exist. its just humans fear of change.


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