talk to me about cycling (not how)

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Yeah, I know what you mean. I dropped the bottle once while adding ammonia and added probably 40 ppm. Lets just say I've been a little more careful since then. That took a LOT of water changes to resolve, but since I've been doing the fishless cycle thing, I've had little to no die off in new tanks. At the fish store I worked at, I sometimes had a hard time helping customers setting up new tanks because of the astounding number of problems some of them have had from simply throwing fish into a tank of brand new tap water.
 
i am currently cycling my 125g. i started by using feeders. i put 4 dozen in and this was no where near enough to get the cycle going. after a week i was still barley getting any ammonia. with only 2 small pbass i would think it would take a very long time to get the tank fully cycled seeing that the ammonia out put would be very small for a tank that size. i am currently adding pure ammonia.

btw i have 2 biosponges and gravel from another established 125g in the new tank and its helping but its nothing amazingly quick.
 
an old filter will definately help. dont bother with old water, its not gonna do anything for your cycling process. keep the old filter on for a few weeks until the new filter has been established and you'll be good to go!
 
joworth;2202789; said:
putting ammonia in the tank to 4 ppm and waiting on it to drop overnight and then waiting on the nitrites to drop is a painstaking process. then you have to do a 90% water change. I am just discouraged to do this. You can put too much in etc. . . i am really hoping that old filter in there will make it quick. i may also take about 5 gallons out of that tank with the filter.

keep the comments coming. i really appreciate it!
Fishless cycling isn't rocket science...
If you can manage salt water successfully, then I imagine you can calculate the amount of pure ammonia to add.

Running a test kit is easy enough, and water changes you better get used to doing too..

It's humane and a nessasary thing to do (cycling) for the future inhabitants...
 
I dont doubt my ability to do it. I am simply looking for alternative methods and trying to find out the necessity given my species.
 
zennzzo;2202953; said:
Fishless cycling isn't rocket science...
If you can manage salt water successfully, then I imagine you can calculate the amount of pure ammonia to add.

Running a test kit is easy enough, and water changes you better get used to doing too..

It's humane and a nessasary thing to do (cycling) for the future inhabitants...

joworth;2202973; said:
I dont doubt my ability to do it. I am simply looking for alternative methods and trying to find out the necessity given my species.
I wasn't doubting your ability, I was just bringing light how easy the most humane method is...
 
ok i am convinced to just suck it up and do the fishless cycling. I was at the store looking for some ammonia today and all had fragrance in it. The clear one did not bubble when shook but in the ingredients it had surfactants and fragrance. What and where should I look and be looking for?
 
Heres how Ive dealt with cycling: I have only ever added water and chemicals, added filtration and heat and everything else. Then I let it run for a few days then add fish. I have done this alot and never had problems. Im not saying this is the best way to do it, but its worked for me.

But, when dealing with sensitive fish or fish that are expensive, I wouldnt risk it. Do it the right way or you run the risk of losing your expenisve/good fish.


I have actually changed my ways of how I cycle once Ive learned the importance of it.
 
jcardona1;2202831; said:
an old filter will definately help. dont bother with old water, its not gonna do anything for your cycling process. keep the old filter on for a few weeks until the new filter has been established and you'll be good to go!
see this is what i did just the oppisite i used the water thinking it would work from their old tank not thinking to use their old filter to help the new ahh we live and we learn
 
Some fish are just tough enough to live through an uncycled tank. The fish that you used to keep would be them. With a Pbass...I'd throw in some Guppies or Minnows (depends on how big the Pbass are/is) and wait it out for a couple of weeks and acclimate the Pbass. Then you have feeders ready to go.
 
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