tankmates for my 125 aggressive vieja x pair

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I'm well informed on African cichlids, considering I worked at one of the largest African Cichlid suppliers in the US with an owner that has gone to Africa and collected fish personally and gives lectures on the subject. I've cared for hundreds of them, some of which are the only examples of those fish imported to the US. You're making yourself look like a fool, rift lake cichlids live at a higher ph/kh/gh but not brackish water. They MIGHT benefit from a little sodium chloride in the water, but they are not brackish.

Sorry I didn't catch the phrase "tangs," I don't use common names and don't hang out on African Cichlid forums because I have no interest in keeping them at home.
 
alright guys i think im going to just by a few and see how it goes to be honest. plecos and synos might be able to last but they will sweep the eggs at night. either some mbuna, cons, or jewels maybe. i guess ill figure it out. i just wanted possible suggestions really. i know about malawi bloat and not giving too much animal protein to rift lakers.... im not some 'newb' with two oscars in a 20g.

i think the tank could look very nice though with my natrual brown gravel mixed with black gravel and rocks for a mbuna tank with a pair of large american cichlids as the center piece.



my fish bowl has plants and i plan to get more to grow to feed these guys too. its about 4 gallons its huge with a 60 watt light
 
aclockworkorange said:
I'm well informed on African cichlids, considering I worked at one of the largest African Cichlid suppliers in the US with an owner that has gone to Africa and collected fish personally and gives lectures on the subject. I've cared for hundreds of them, some of which are the only examples of those fish imported to the US. You're making yourself look like a fool, rift lake cichlids live at a higher ph/kh/gh but not brackish water. They MIGHT benefit from a little sodium chloride in the water, but they are not brackish.

Sorry I didn't catch the phrase "tangs," I don't use common names and don't hang out on African Cichlid forums because I have no interest in keeping them at home.
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Yet you cite nothing not who this vendor is or what lectures your talking about. Also having an intelligent conversation about something that is debated on every forum is not looking like a fool. Implying that someone else is and citing no facts makes you look desperate and that you have no fact to go on. I'm not very versed in africans, but since I've become interested in them I've been talking to quite a few vendors who'd disagree with you. Also as I stated everything I stated is fact lake Malawi is considered brackish on every googled site I went to. The only thing in debate is that many think despite this lake Malawi cichlids don't need salt while some state they do. I've not resorted to calling you anything or attacking you cause I don't need to. I know what the definition is of brackish water is and how many part per million a body of water needs to be considered brackish. All you should be saying if anything is that you've had experience keeping them in freshwater with no ill effects on breeding or health. That I could believe, but as I stated the web and its many sites list Malawi as brackish. I pity the fact that you resort to personal attacks when someone disagrees with you, it shows a lack of character. To the op I apologize for helping to derail your thread. I wish you good luck and if you suceed in your comm. look forward to you posting it and lots of pics.
 
african cichlids are not brackish. the rift lakes have ocean like qualities in terms on minerals, ph, and hardness but it isn't the same type of salt. the only brackish cichlids i personally have seen are chromides and i think some tilapia can handle it as well.


mbuna can breed in regular untreated tapwater ( dechlorinated obviously within good ammonia nitrate nitrite readings) with nothing else added. im not saying all africans as some are more fragile but the malawi mbunas yes
 
good answer on the brackish thing. Actually I have also seen Lake Malawi called brackish on a lot of sites also. I beleive it is a differant kind of salt also. ime I always had bad luck mixing mbuna with sa/ca cichlids. If it were me I would just keep the pair together as the Veijas can become pretty agressive when breeding. My Argentae pair was crazy when breeding.
 
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