i decided it would be easier to just make a new thread one of my new tats has large white spots/bumps on the center of both his eyes and he has little activity??how do i cure this
tat eye probs
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Eye problems generally have only 1 cure - low stress and clean water. Hopefully your fish is just in the beginning stages of cloudy eye and it goes away quickly. In most cases it does. Worse case senario when both iris are white - the fish had bulging or pop eyes in the past, both iris are shot, and it is now blind.
Otherone;4439752; said:
would putting pharmetical salt in the tank and doing 10 percent water changes everyday help cure the problem
Doudtful salt will do anything for the eye, if it were fungal maybe but bacterial not really cause it's not exposed to open water. An increase in water changes could cause more stress than nesseassry. So long as your ammonia and nitrite free and there is no excessive nitrate, normal weekly water changes should be sufficent. Lack of stress is gonna be key here
water change wise can i do it twice a week and the prob looks like it is on the outside of the eye my archer had this prob and his eye got all fungus like and he died he was in brackish water when he got the infection so would the salt do anything im getting the pharmetacil kind that helps get rid of stress also i will be adding some denitrate to the filter as well as water changesOtherone;4439816; said:
If it's fungal and in it's early stages - Tea Tree Oil (mela/pimafix) is better than salt, however I have no idea if Payara can handle tea tree oil. Also if it's external and not fungual it could simply be an injury - the cures the same, clean water and low stress.
Salt is good for homeostasis, most tapwater contains enuff salt for healthy levels in fish (some might debate this as they add salt regularly). The "salt" by it's self burns the scales of the fish slimulating slimecoat regenereation which is good to help heal over open wounds or remove juvi parasites. When it comes to external parasites it's not the salt per say but the fluxuation in the waters salinity that kills juvi parasites - they can't adapt fast enuff however adults can adapt - at that point it's a lifespan game - 3-7 daze. I do wish you the best of luck and hopefully it's just cloudy eye and is gone by next week. Unfortunately Payaras and meds don't mix well. However Eye issues and Meds don't mix well either. What it all really comes down to is overall health - a good immune system produced by a variety of healthy foods, salinity for homeostasis, good levels of dissolved oxygen, good gas exchange rate within the tank, lack of expossure to excessive heavy metals and ammonia, zero nitrite, and very low safe levels of nitrate. This is really all we can do - an unhealthy fish can be doomed from the start no matter what the infection or injury. A bullied fish can also be doomed as it's immune system depletes with stress.
Salt is good for homeostasis, most tapwater contains enuff salt for healthy levels in fish (some might debate this as they add salt regularly). The "salt" by it's self burns the scales of the fish slimulating slimecoat regenereation which is good to help heal over open wounds or remove juvi parasites. When it comes to external parasites it's not the salt per say but the fluxuation in the waters salinity that kills juvi parasites - they can't adapt fast enuff however adults can adapt - at that point it's a lifespan game - 3-7 daze. I do wish you the best of luck and hopefully it's just cloudy eye and is gone by next week. Unfortunately Payaras and meds don't mix well. However Eye issues and Meds don't mix well either. What it all really comes down to is overall health - a good immune system produced by a variety of healthy foods, salinity for homeostasis, good levels of dissolved oxygen, good gas exchange rate within the tank, lack of expossure to excessive heavy metals and ammonia, zero nitrite, and very low safe levels of nitrate. This is really all we can do - an unhealthy fish can be doomed from the start no matter what the infection or injury. A bullied fish can also be doomed as it's immune system depletes with stress.
Otherone;4439935; said:
so should i add salt?but there is alot of current in the tank and oxegen but i will do two water changes this week and add denitrate to the filter and feed the fish not as much food but in ur oppinion should i add a little bit of salt or no?
ive seen payara in the shedd aquarium in chicago with the white dot on eye. If these guys cant get rid of it, i would bet its hard to treat. 2 of my 5 tats have the white dot on the eye and have had it since i got them over a month ago. so im thinkn it might be permanent. Melafix or pimafix wont hurt em, i use it on all my fish. if the fish is eating and its not gettin anyworse then i wouldnt worry about it.
The reason I recommended pharmaceutical salt to him in a pm with the 10% wc's a day was because if its outside the eye it spreads to the body just like what happened to mine that passed away a week after treatment, If you see it spreading to the body do exactly as I said and hope for the best.