The AK-47: "The Gun that Changed the World"

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JD7.62;4558719; said:
Hey my AK-74s are "just .22s" too but I still love em, prefer them over the -47s actually.
Why is that J?
 
JD7.62;4552948; said:
Do it! Its a great little carbine. I take mine with me every time I go on a road trip. I keep it folded up between my seat and console. Its cheap enough that if its stolen it wouldnt break the bank too bad but its reliable and accurate enough to get me out of any situation where it might be needed.

PLUS Kel-Tec is a great AMERICAN company. Their customer service is top notch. I recenlt lost the guide rod retainer on my P-32 and gave them a call. I explained to them it was my fault that I lost the piece and guess what. Two days later I had not only the piece I lost but an extra as well, totally free of charge! They handled shipping and everything. You can beat that customer service with a stick! Oh yeah, KT is in Florida too.



Thanks man, I do like the AKs. Hopefully one day I can branch out in that purdy stuff you get into. Since moving to Florida though, Ive spent all my free money on fishing equipment and havnt bought a gun in several months, probably the longest time Ive gone with out a new gun in a few years! :WHOA:

I hear ya man...I'm thinking about a local saiga ak-74 a guy has locally for the tune of $850 but he is interested in trades-
I'm thinking about offering up my bushy AR and see if he bites.....I want away from the Pita AR cleaning......I would be happy if he was intrested

I had no clue you took off to FL.......I got some good friends down that way.......I have seen some nice stuff from their firearm wise that I would love to obtain.......Once you get settled in-I'm sure you will get back into the game........
 
krichardson;4559311; said:
Why is that J?

I like the 5.45 round better. I am more accurate with it as it is a much flatter shooting round and is very soft shooting. It has a range advantage over the 7.62x39mm round as well.


akskirmish;4559704; said:
I hear ya man...I'm thinking about a local saiga ak-74 a guy has locally for the tune of $850 but he is interested in trades-
I'm thinking about offering up my bushy AR and see if he bites.....I want away from the Pita AR cleaning......I would be happy if he was intrested

I had no clue you took off to FL.......I got some good friends down that way.......I have seen some nice stuff from their firearm wise that I would love to obtain.......Once you get settled in-I'm sure you will get back into the game........

What kind of Saiga? The standard sporter model in the Monte Carlo style stock or one of the KVAR/Arsenal SGL series Saigas? If its the latter that is a good deal for a fantastic firearm, especially for you your area.

Yeah Im down in FL now, lots of guns here. The laws a more strict then KY though. No open carry, waiting period, etc. What I am happy about is the abundant amount of transferrable machine guns for when the time comes to purchase one....I hope.
 
Thalan;4558668; said:
The whole AR unreliability thing is a little blown out of proportion. The problem was that they issued them saying they were perfect and didnt even need cleaning, the conditions in Vietnam proved that to be false. They then issued cleaning instructions and the problems became much less severe but the resentment stuck and you now have a bunch of people that distrust ARs. If properly maintained and you find that load sweet spot they're just as reliable as anything else out there... but they're still shooting .22....:grinno:
Well, they may be shooting similar diameters, they are definitely not .22's, lol. Oh, and the .223 actually ends up doing more collateral damage than the AK round because of it's tumbling effect, whereas the AK round just punches through the target.
Evidence: .223 on left, .22 next to it, and .22 caliber pellets next to the .22
22Comparison.gif


krichardson;4559311; said:
Why is that J?
The ak-74 round (5.45x39) is MUCH more accurate and overall better than the ak-47 (7.62x39.)
 
I<3fish;4561409; said:
Well, they may be shooting similar diameters, they are definitely not .22's, lol. Oh, and the .223 actually ends up doing more collateral damage than the AK round because of it's tumbling effect, whereas the AK round just punches through the target.
Evidence: .223 on left, .22 next to it, and .22 caliber pellets next to the .22
22Comparison.gif



The ak-74 round (5.45x39) is MUCH more accurate and overall better than the ak-47 (7.62x39.)


No one said they were .22lr, we said they are .22 caliber which IS true. There is a difference. The tumbling effect is also blown way out of proportion as well.
 
And speaking of 22 long rifle,German SportsGuns now makes an AK in the caliber.Anyone heard of it?
 
krichardson;4562044; said:
And speaking of 22 long rifle,German SportsGuns now makes an AK in the caliber.Anyone heard of it?

They have conversion kits for most of the .223 to 22 LR. You can't beat the cost of 22LR even if you reload.

Personally I like the 7.62 X 51 (HK G3 clones) since I'm currently a civy I get to use HP and SP ammunition. The total kinetic energy is much higher though the ballistics are a bit worse. The larger round loses most of it's effect in FMJ as most of the energy blows through the target.
 
vladfloroff;4562086; said:
They have conversion kits for most of the .223 to 22 LR. You can't beat the cost of 22LR even if you reload.
Yeah,I've seen the convesion kits but this company actually makes their AK rifle in 22 and I think they have a 1911 also.
 
krichardson;4562692; said:
Yeah,I've seen the convesion kits but this company actually makes their AK rifle in 22 and I think they have a 1911 also.

Yep, they also make the GSG5 which is an MP5 clone that shoots .22 LR. :naughty:

It's on my "to get" list.
 
Vicious_Fish;4562835; said:
Yep, they also make the GSG5 which is an MP5 clone that shoots .22 LR. :naughty:

It's on my "to get" list.
Is it now,you could have bought mine when I had it.
 
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