The Herichthys Pantostictus is a cool fish.

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Yep, JMA had said they were the same species, but MoJo has posted pics of his blue labridens and they definitely look different. Cool fish....tempted to setup a tank for a pair!
 
balton777;1145551; said:
You sure that's the 'grand daddy' of cichlid sites. I was just there and there was not even 1 registered user on the board and I was the only guest. They're not very busy...MFK still rules. :headbang2
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I'll take quality over quantity any day. That site is the ultimate cichlid site when you have tough questions. Browse the taxonomy forum. Heavy stuff. Juan Miquel is probably the world authority on the Hericthys complex. Here's some information he posted on the Pantos and Labridens.

The blue labridens and Herichthys pantostictus are the same fish, blue labridens being a riverine variety of Herichthys pantostictus, which has its type locality in Laguna del Chairel (Lacustrine form). The fish pictured is a geographical variety of Herichthys pantostictus from Rio El Salto. Diagnostic features for H. pantostictus include the blotch behind the pectoral fins, red in H. pantostictus and purple in H. labridens. The body is more elongated and covered (partially sometimes) with red blotches over it, as you can see in the rear half of the pictured fish.
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I have several tanks with Labridens/Pantostictum. Each tank is seperated by collection locale. One of the tanks with fish from Rio Tamasopo had some White Labridens that looked more elongated...different from the others. I though maybe I mixed the fish from another Rio. I sent the picture to Juan. He said that the fish is actually a naturally occuring hybrid (MoJo shudders) between H. Labridens and (the holy grail of Hericthys) H. Steindachneri. Apparently the two species have not yet fully separated.

Here;s the fish...much longer snout...more red in the operculum:

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Aquamojo;1360472; said:
I'll take quality over quantity any day. That site is the ultimate cichlid site when you have tough questions. Browse the taxonomy forum. Heavy stuff. Juan Miquel is probably the world authority on the Hericthys complex. Here's some information he posted on the Pantos and Labridens.
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Thanks AquaMojo...that's good to know.


Aquamojo said:
I have several tanks with Labridens/Pantostictum. Each tank is seperated by collection locale. One of the tanks with fish from Rio Tamasopo had some White Labridens that looked more elongated...different from the others. I though maybe I mixed the fish from another Rio. I sent the picture to Juan. He said that the fish is actually a naturally occuring hybrid (MoJo shudders) between H. Labridens and (the holy grail of Hericthys) H. Steindachneri. Apparently the two species have not yet fully separated.

Here;s the fish...much longer snout...more red in the operculum:
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I guess you need a side of salsa to go with that one?
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Just kidding.
 
I was able to breed my pair. These are pics back in September '07 when both were still wearing their breeding dress. The male is around 6" now and the female is close to 5".

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Hi. I have two H. pantostictus, and I thought I should warn people that they are, from my experience, very aggressive! The larger one (about 3" at the time) killed a slightly smaller convict and two firemouths in quick succession before I removed it. The smaller one hasn't killed anything yet, but is the dominant fish in the tank, not afraid to take on the similar sized oscar.
The smaller one recently spawned with the dominant convict and cared for its eggs well (the eggs all fungused up unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on one's view of hybrids!))
Whilst they are troublemakers, they have a lot of personality and are interesting to keep.
 
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