The Unbeatable Fog

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ChrisK41

Feeder Fish
Jun 7, 2009
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I have a tank that has never seen clear water. I have been keeping fish since my dad built me my first 80 gallon tank when I was 8, 25 years ago, and I have never had a problem like this. This tank has been my baby, but I am ready to take a bat to it, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

I know this is a long post and would like to apologize ahead of time.

History:
May 15 – I finished setting up the aquarium with plants and soil and first filled it up. It was cloudy, but every other tank I had used Amazonia on had been and would always clear up overnight.

June 27 – I had been doing a 50% water change every week. The plants are growing great and the tank has finished cycling, but the water is just as cloudy as day one. I decided to start moving fish into the aquarium anyway so I don’t have to keep my quarantine tank going forever.

July 3 – All the fish and in the tank and seem healthy. The plants are growing fast and pearling, but still as cloudy as day one.

July 6 – I decided to try some seachem purigen after doing some research. I add 100 ml to the fluval 206 and 250 ml to the eheim pro3e 2074

July 18 – The purigen did not help at all so I add a coralife turbotwist uv sterilizer in line to the fluval 206

July 28 – the uv sterilizer has been running 24/7 since being first installed and has not done a thing. I get desperate and add some seachem clarity, even though I usually done believe in using water clarifier. The tank gets even more cloudy at first, but I figure that is how it is supposed to work.

July 31 – Thanks to the clarifier the tank is now cloudier then even. The initial fog it created has not cleared up in the least and after all that work and money I am ready to just throw it away. There has not been one day in the entire time that this tank has been clear.


Water parameters:
Tank size: 40 gallon breeder (36x18x17)
pH: 6.9-7.1 (Milwaukee controller)
Ammonia: 0 ppm
Nitrite: 0 ppm
Nitrate: 0 ppm
KH: 7 degrees
GH: 5 degrees
Temp: 78 degrees
Water source: Local fish store. The same place I bought the fish, plants, and soil from. It is RO/DI water with seachem equilibrium and alkaline buffer added.

Equipment:
Lighting: 2x 24” marineland plant LED’s
Filtration: Eheim pro3e 2074 and fluval 206
Pressurized CO2 with Milwaukee controller
Coralife turbotwist uv sterilizer

Plants:
Dwarf grass, Red Ozelot sword, Anubis Wrinkle leaf, Anubis Nano, Ludwigia Palustris (both red and green kinds)

Fish:
4 rummy nose, 3 Harlequin Rasbora, 3 Guppies, 3 Galaxy Rasbora, 4 Cherry Barbs, 2 Peacock Gudgeon, 8 Amano Shrimp, 3 red fire shrimp, 2 Nerita Snail, 3 Marble Hatchets

Soil:
ADA Amazonia aqua soil

Other Notes:
There was a bit of an algae bloom in June that lasted a few weeks, but cleared up about the same time I was adding the fish.
 
Any reason you're using rodi water for a planted tank? Your plants are not that sensitive

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The RO/DI water was more for the fish. The tap water here is really bad, I won't even drink it!

I use ro/di water in all my tanks and add buffers with equilibrium. The well water we have isn't optimum for my fish either.

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Be careful dropping your kh. You will lose buffering for your co2 injection.

Any way you can experiment outside the tank?

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Are you adding the equilibrium directly to the tank? When I add it, I use a separate container with the equilibrium mixed with room temp ro/di water. Water into container first, then add equilibrium, it dissolves faster. I shake the container until the equilibrium is completely dissolved. When I add the dissolved mixture the water is cloudy for about 15 minutes then its back to crystal clear. I've found by trial and error if there are undissolved "chunks" or bits of equilibrium it will make the water cloudy. Dissolving in advance is key.

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Be careful dropping your kh. You will lose buffering for your co2 injection.

Any way you can experiment outside the tank?

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And a large shift in parameters isn't great for your fish either.

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I suggest adding some polyester fiberfill to the filter/s, it's what I use to clear up the water in my tanks. Polyester fiberfill will catch the micro particles that filter pads can miss, and also catches water discoloration. I get my bags of polyester fiberfill from Walmart for $3, they also sell the same kind at Hobby Lobby -

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Morning-Glory-Premium-Polyester-Fiberfill-20-oz./19397510
 
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