The Use of Probiotics in Aquaculture

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I stopped adding to my main tank for several months and now there’s a cover of scummy biofilm on everything that’s been building up on my plants and hardscape. Now it’s time to retest its effectiveness.
 
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FYI…… no inert starch medium in some products, such as Bio-Clean, which is what I have been using for years now.

Also, several different manufacturers have been adding bacteria to help break down solid waste, for many years. Hikari came out with Bio-Gold many years ago. It works. I have posted about it here in the past. NLS gives similar results, but I haven’t used either for a long time, I simply add Bio-Clean to the water. Good luck.
This is what 8 have been using in the UK and Australia, works great!

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That is an impressive amount of fish to have no sludge in your filter. My comment was not about the city water, that was just in mentioning I have no experience with these products in a septic system. My response was in reference to Johns -
Water like glass and super active fish population, sorry for the bad angle

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I've only begun experimenting with Rid-X recently; the filter sludge I hope to eliminate by its use is a PITA to check as it's in the bottom of an opaque container, with about 30 gallons of biomedia situated immediately above. I will be checking for it closely during my next biomedia rinse, which is a year away. :)

I have no idea if the heterotrophic bacteria in this food will pass through the gastric system of the fish and remain alive and active once they take the "rear exit". But the thread as I recall it is focused on adding the probiotic to the water itself, usually in the filter, to let the little buggers gobble up sludge. Continued regular dosage would imply that these bacteria will not establish and maintain a viable self-sustaining colony and require constant "topping-up". I don't agree that establishing a colony of bacteria...or anything else...requires "constant bombarding". If you are doing that, it implies that the organism in question simply isn't making it on its own; you're creating the equivalent of a put-and-take population rather than a self-sustaining colony. And there are plenty of invasive critters around the globe whose burgeoning populations can be traced back to a single or a few accidental introductions, which were successful enough to get out of control.

The tiny amount of probiotic in the fish food would, I believe, be pretty ineffective on its own, except while it's inside the fish where it might help create a healthier environment. Even if it passes through the fish's gut and is still active, the dilution in the larger volume of tank water would be extreme.

Maybe this might be effective in a new tank, one that hasn't already got a bunch of accumulated sludge in nooks and crannies that can't easily be siphoned and cleaned out? Would regular feeding with this stuff help prevent the formation of that stuff in the first place?

In any case, spooning a septic-tank product into my filter was a huge leap of faith for a cynic like me. I for one won't be feeding what sounds like the fish-food equivalent of yogurt to my fish at the same time; that's just too avant-garde for my blood. Hopefully if someone tries it out they will post and update here.
The only time I ever add, is if I have to open my canister, when it maybe twice a year.

And i do not dump this stuff into my water column, I agree it just seems weird doing this, I spoon/rub the product into the coarse mech filtration, then close the canister and that's it done for 6 months.

Also I remember RD mentioning that he prepared his in a cup of tank water, allowed it to dissolve, strained off any remaining solids then added the water, i have tried this also and it fogs the tank for about 15 mins and then the water is clear again, I just prefer to pretent my canister is a mini sceptic tank and I have it loaded as such.

Also I do not use substrate, I use bio media in the base of the tank, Marine Pure Spheres, coral rock and bio rings, and my Festea and Black Nasty love shoving the spheres round all morning!

It's actually great because I use detritus worms to work out if the canister needs opened, as soon as i see worms in the water column then I know my canister is full of crud!

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IME most of these septic tank cleaners are similar in design, and offer very simiar results. One thing that I found with Bio-Clean was no grain based medium, so it settles fast and the water is clear in very short order. https://bio-clean.com/
 
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IME most of these septic tank cleaners are similar in design, and offer very simiar results. One thing that I found with Bio-Clean was no grain based medium, so it settles fast and the water is clear in very short order. https://bio-clean.com/
That looks very similar to Sceptico, unfortunately I cannot buy this brand in the UK, it seems they limit it to the USA and Canada only!
 
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