M|L;1864883; said:
but what I'm trying to say is, THERE'S NO SUCH THING as a "widebar tail stripe" since true widebars can have a variety of tail stripes. and since this is pretty much what's confusing everyone, people refers to the chart when figuring out if it's a ST or IT and the tail stripe chart simply doesn't work. same goes for thinbars, as they can have a variety of tail stripes as well!
so, in the end, the tail stripe chart is only good for silver dats and new guinea dats, but again, no one should have any problems identifying them even without the tail stripe as reference.
so my point stands that the chart DOESN'T WORK.
M L,
i have to agree that nowadays identifying ST to CT to CT looking IT may be difficult to identify, however, if you have seen the TRUE Thai ST and a TRUE CT, then you will be able to identify the difference.
i have come across many CT and only a couple very big and old age ST's however in my time. there are only two difference to truly spot the difference, that is by color and tail stripes. but i can guarantee you that none in this forum has seen the what is now the so called ST. the last one i saw in a tank was owned by a millionaire who went through the whole country to get one but don't know how around 15 years ago. don't ask for pictures as i don't have any to prove.
as for indos seen in bkk, they are imported from vietnam, my friend is importing them from the wild.
NTT's are still wild caught in abundance according to season to eat and small ones for sale; they are mostly caught and brought in from Nakorn Phnom (a state in nothern Thailand).
one more bit of info to complicate things, in recent years i have seen CT's that has the color of ST from the mekong basin or CT with the stripe of ST from the mekong basin. this confused our community of tiger keepers, which after we concluded that ST from the mekong basin may have bred with CTs in cambodia. however this last lot of fry that was caught and some still exists today in the hands of Thai keepers and a couple singaporeans who were able to smuggle it out, was seen around 4 years ago. non were ever seen since.
but just for history and reference, the original ST that were kept for pets and originator that made ST's famous came from a lake as menioned before called BUNG BORAPETCH in Nakorn Sawan Province (another Thai State). this is a ST i have never seen before in real life but only in black and white and is 100% extinct. as out fathers witnessed this extinction. they told us that these original ST's were the best there ever was, stripe wise, color intensity, size and taste compared to all other tigers they know.
just my little knowledge that haven't been shared outside our Thai community here.