thinbar datnoid SDS

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out of the 8 NTT babies I had in the past, all have die from sds. I had clean water and did not overfeed
 
Casper2000;4134702; said:
They are definitely more fragile. The one I got now is 8", got it at about 3". They seem to come in with gill flukes a lot more than indos. Look for the healthiest ones out of the bunch, examples of a sick one would be: heavy breathing and redding behind the gill plate (well these are the common signs of gill flukes). But yes SDS does occur most commonly with NTT more than any other dat.

bongko;4135014; said:
yea i've bought ~20 small NTT's almost a year ago and have grown them out to 5-8". out of the 20, about 3 of them died for what I thought to be no real reason.

i did notice after the first one died that when they breathe hard and dont really swim around, they end up dead the next day. i tried treating them in a hospital tank with meds, salt, etc but im 0-2 in trying to save them. the 3 fish died on seperate occassions, with a few months time between deaths.

i've bought 5 small IT's 1-2" and none have died on me yet.

i think its safer if you buy bigger size NTT's, maybe 6"+ is better

Deep Blue Sea;4135021; said:
Mine were super fragile and both died within a week they seem alot more fragile then others

teohha;4135593; said:
I would say more fragile then ITs.

aznfab213;4136609; said:
out of the 8 NTT babies I had in the past, all have die from sds. I had clean water and did not overfeed

yikes, makes me think I shouldnt get any thinbars at all.
 
i dont think they are as weak to sudden death syndrome but idk because ive only had one
 
It's a crap shoot with smaller NTT's (thin bars), I have had some batches all make it and some batches that would slowly die off one by one. Now when I'm talking smaller they are up to 2", so now I just avoid the smaller ones all together and just go for at least 4" and up. Much better bet in my opinion. One other thing, the bigger ones would be easier to starve to convert to pellets than the smaller ones if they survive.
 
I baught 5 labelled vietnameese tiger datinoids lfs guy fed them before he bagged 1 I had watched 2 real dark 2 light defined strip. put em in 90 gallon split 40/60 with tetra. when introduced all looked the same (light defined stripe) they schooled around and chased fish and ate live blackworms. I noiced 1 smallest 1 (all about inch or about) had fin erosion possibly due to stress. lo n behold he is gettin chased by others. I made enough hiding spots for all possibly stressing them more than needed. Noticed they were rubbing on stuff. online people say-natural for tigers-for sure a parasite-possible introduction problem biofilteration not adapted to new bioload-possible over cleaning. since the tank had been set up 3 years and I had cleaned it a bunch before introducing thr ntt's I thought overleaning... after I rooked out and took advice offline to kill ich with 87 degree ferinheit water for a week(possibly good remidy but to durastic for young dats or not) after a 7 degree rise in 9 hours I observe a what was strong for 4 days dat lying on the gravel not moving his fins, the weak small guy less active and 3 guys really active (most I had seen up to then) I imediately turned down temp and in 4 hours went down 5 but right away buddy not moving raced to the top crashed ninto bottom back to top and died (turned dark instantly) I got credit and removed a cichlid from the other side of the tank. Baught 2 more ntt's and introduced them as I opened up the tank. (housed with convict rainbow cichlid cross 4.5 inch who was eating the tetra. I kind of thought that the lack of filtration in the sectioned tank was the reason the fish were rubing. It slowed down but still continued. I had thought lack of circulation didn't let fish eat frozen bloodworm because no movement. (everyone says they only eat live food but I hadnt seen them eat the tetra figured they were to big. dats started chowing frozen bloodworm in current after taking out convict (got agressive towards dats) in process scared dats good. All coloring on 4 was crappy wasn't sure if it was cuz of scare or new night blue led lights. went to lfs and got 20 glow tetra again and dats as soon as I added them got colorful and schooled around atacking the tetra. next morning only 6 remain. I guess I know that at least some of my ntt's are eating live. oh yeah in 2 weeks some 1 is like 1 1/4 inch much bigger yhan when baught. and when I introduced the second 2 ntt's we picked the 1 chasing others away from window and a dark defuned stripped 1 which was chasing tetra withconvict all night will post more
 
ive tried to keep baby ntt on many occasions i would suggest for the survival rate get some 3inchers" a lightly stocked tank and lots of surface agitation. as many other post say the sm ntt can suffer from sds so a lightly stocked tank would help keep stress down and agitation for air.and 3inchers should be more hardy
 
I have 8 now. I started with 5 and thought they had ich. bumped up the temperature from 80 to 86 and 1 got shocked and died 12 hours in. other 4 loved high temp. over a month baught two then two. None have died since and I contribute my one loss to the tard of temperature elevation. my dats were 1 inch and not the first four are all around 2 one 2 1/4 inch. I have noticed the thin bars are relly timmid and light sensetive. After awhile I turned light off in the day so they would scavange for food. I had troubleinitially with the dats eating food that is not alive. before long they all eat frozen blood worms. I also think a large group promotes the babies to eat. They are amazing to watch stalk prey and are beautiful once they settle in
 
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