Things They Promised Us Kids

[Ogertron3000]

I dont follow. You find my preferred music oppressive by its nature?

I'll tell you what i find oppressive: expectations, judgement, narrowmindedness, preachiness...hallmarks of an older demographic that for some reason thinks they got everything figured out.

I dont intend to be rude or offensive, merely debating a point. But dont you find yourself somewhat responsible for the lack of the clean energy, flying cars, space travel, or medical advancements? After all, its been your generation running the show these last several decades. Did you expect these things to happen on their own? Why turn the blame to the younger generation's choice in music, hairstyles, or sexual deviance as the scapegoat for the perceived stagnation?

I like all sorts of music and still love metal and punk, it is the style of music that has the most negative preconceptions about it. My wife was very disturbed when my 4 year old daughter suddenly wanted to listen to master of puppets constantly. I was amused but the wife said she didnt want a little girl listening to songs "about death".
I finally got her to listen to the lyrics and explained it was actually an anti drug song and its not a bad thing for a kid to get an anti drug message even though shes far too young to understand it (she just seemed to like yelling obey your master at her dolls). I then got my wife to listen to a few other songs that sound harsh but have a somewhat positive message if you actually listen to what they are saying. I said you dont have to like it but dont be so closed minded and stereotypical about things you dont understand and she sort of agreed, I then ruined the whole thing by playing the metallica cover of the misfits song "last caress"

Lately ive been getting the daughter into the beatles and blondie, 2 current favourites are norewgian wood which really has an appaling message behind it and blondies "dreaming" which always makes me happier when I blast it when driving around.

 

[jjohnwm]

...But dont you find yourself somewhat responsible for the lack of the clean energy, flying cars, space travel, or medical advancements? After all, its been your generation running the show these last several decades. Did you expect these things to happen on their own? Why turn the blame to the younger generation's choice in music, hairstyles, or sexual deviance as the scapegoat for the perceived stagnation?

Not sure if that's aimed at me, but I hasten to point out that I don't blame the younger generation for anything. I don't really blame my generation either; while we are not flying around like the Jetsons, the advancements in medicine, technology and other areas far surpass some of the things we were promised. Flying cars? Pfffft! No imagination needed to think those up...but who would have foreseen a day when the majority of people are walking around with a tiny electronic device in their pockets which allows them instant communication with the entire world, as well as access to pretty much the sum total of human knowledge? I distinctly remember the first time I heard the word "internet"; it was a news story on TV, and my old man, who watched TV news as a religion, listened to the segment and then rolled his eyes and commented "Yeah, right...that's nonsense" (he didn't use the actual term "nonsense", but rather something less family-friendly) and returned to his alternate religion: the newspaper.

The problems of the world aren't caused by old people or by young people; they are caused by simple human nature and that doesn't change.

 

[TwoHedWlf]

Is this where us old farts are meant to rant about entitled kids and avocado toast?

 

[Ulu]

. . . I dont intend to be rude or offensive . . .

The you have failed completely. Do you hate your parents?

This unearned distrust happens in every generation you know, and it's all been written down before.
Over and over, but nobody remembers.

People just look back at man's obvious screwups and think, "I would have done it better!" or "I would have acted sooner!"
But it's just a faulty game.
It's like when you peek at your friend's cards in poker.
It doesn't mean you are a master when you then beat him.
You're just fooling yourself.

One thing my father cautioned me about repeatedly was bad judgement and things which contribute to it.
Bad judgement creates desperate people. The prisons are full of them, but the graveyard even more.

 

[Ulu]

BTW, any of you who do not appreciate my humor, do consider the wonders of the modern age.

Before the year 2000, no truly modern electronics existed.
Cars use 1/4 of the fuel they used to and are faster and safer.
They last much, much longer unless you get a lemon.

And on and on . . .

 

[jjohnwm]

Please let's not turn this light-hearted fun thread into a battlefield or a doom-and-gloom exchange.

My dad's take on the above idea was great:

Good judgment comes from experience; unfortunately, experience comes from bad judgment.

 

[Ulu]

Do you mean like the bad judgment of triggering a fan?



Yeah that’s my bad. In the future I must remember where the word fan comes from.

What I have done is referred to in literature as goring a sacred cow. This often results in a physical contest, but here we are in the age of social distancing.

Hey look, anybody that feels the need to rant, have at it!

 

[MatteoTheEnder22]

Since I was a little kid in 1959, just starting school, they promised us 4 things I remember distinctly:


--The end of metal coins. (Too heavy, expensive and dirty!)

--Vending machines everywhere. (Kept the metal coins around...huh...Nobody saw that?)

--Free Public School on the TV for everyone. (no more winter hiking and desert bussing!)

--Flying cars that run on atomic energy. (And don't crash into a mushroom cloud of radioactive debris.)


Over 60 years they've had and what did we get?


-New commemorative coins every week & cheap little zinc coins for eveyday.

-Cheap 24/7/365 pornography

-Speedmetal and rap "music"

-the pet rock


Guys, I'm just getting too old to wait much longer. I'd planned a glorious career stealing vending machines with my flying car!

Without any metal coins inside, they'd be light enough to fly around to my secret lair.

All the school kids would see it on TV too!
Nobody would ever go there to find me due to the megawatt sound system playing continual, horrible, loud, rhythmic, angry, screaming and cursing, metal clashing and screeching and awful crazy beating drum noises late at light. I expected it to be very unpopular. So awful, you couldn't pay people to go there!

Then the world turned upside down and I was foiled.

Did they really promise that the only promise I got is that global warming will hopefully stop and that the world is going to be in virtual reality.

 

[Ulu]

Those things and many other things too but there was always the threat of thermonuclear war.

When was the last time you saw a famous TV anchor person say thermonuclear war?

I lived on an Air Force Base, but we all lived in the basement of the bowling alley during the Cuban missile crisis. My dad was in the SPADS blockhouse looking at a radar screen, Waiting for Kennedy to push the big red button.

See we never got that either so I don’t complain too loudly about missing the flying cars!

 

[Ulu]

By the way, unless global warming happens suddenly to change the climate in a radical way, Mankind is going to deal with it.

If you’re living in a Developed country, you really don’t have a lot to worry about.

Anyhow this is not a new thing. There are sunken cities all over the globe because the sea used to be much lower when they were built.

Archaeologists find things much higher in elevation than they should be, because the sea was much higher when they were put there.

They have dug up things that show we may be sort of missing out on a big part of geologic time, because the evidence was destroyed by continental subduction.

Anyhow human beings are much more likely To effect your demise than the earth itself. I would worry about them more than anything cosmic.