This aint good

[koidaddy]

U seem to be over looking something very important! Allow me to give an example....

I want to own a serval here in PA(were our laws on most animals are highly lax, unlike florida) but i need a permit. I have lookd into getting one. THe politictions claim its an easy task to get a permit. BS! it is a highly difficult process that would take me over 2 years. probly more than 3!

Now imagine the process to get a permit will be in Florida? Can u honostly tell me that it will be a good thing? Ur assinign statement of just buy the license, quite obviously is uniformed, and retarded. You have never attemted to get a permit have u? Try to, then tell me it would be a good thing

Before you start calling me names get your facts. It just shows your character. How is my assinign statement uninformed? If you want the pet bad enough get in line for the permit. Two years would go by quick. But you are so far off base on that as well. It doesn't take 2 years here.

 

[snakeguy101]

Before you start calling me names get your facts. It just shows your character. How is my assinign statement uninformed? If you want the pet bad enough get in line for the permit. Two years would go by quick. But you are so far off base on that as well. It doesn't take 2 years here.

it seems like your position has changed from the beginning of the thread where you were pro-ban to here where you are only pro regulation. I think that most everyone will agree that the FFWC needs to regulate the trade of these animals but what everyone here is saying is that a ban (or even more regulations) will not do a bit of good. they just need to focus on what regulations are already in place as opposed to criminalizing innocent people by taking away an animal that they would responsibly care for.

and as a side note, it took me 1.5 years to get my class 3 permit and 3 years to get the venomous permit. so it DOES take some time.

 

[koidaddy]

it seems like your position has changed from the beginning of the thread where you were pro-ban to here where you are only pro regulation. I think that most everyone will agree that the FFWC needs to regulate the trade of these animals but what everyone here is saying is that a ban (or even more regulations) will not do a bit of good. they just need to focus on what regulations are already in place as opposed to criminalizing innocent people by taking away an animal that they would responsibly care for.

and as a side note, it took me 1.5 years to get my class 3 permit and 3 years to get the venomous permit. so it DOES take some time.

My first post was that is was unfortunate it had to come to this.
That was followed but people saying there wasn't a problem. Fine, I don't have first hand experience with it only media info.
Then I was called a lier about snake attacks because it was a pet snake and that has nothing to do with the Everglades. Again, fine. But I thought this all started with unresponsable reptile owners.
Then I start getteing called names. Class act there.

So my position hasn't changed. I still think it needs to be regulated better or banned.
I was offering a solution that some did not want to hear. Get the license now before the ban and have everything to qualifiy for being grandfatherd in if need be. They are not going to take you pets if you have the correct documentation once the law is passed.

But I do love the warm welcome here.

 

[megalops///]

I'm not proving a point, the side proposing a ban is. I'm asking for the information that backs up how much of a threat pythons are in the glades.

Let me put it in layman's terms. The 'glades aren't like the school cafeteria where there is enough food to go around for everybody. The 'glades is just like anywhere else in the world thats being threatened like this. You introduce a new exotic species, now, not only does the natives species have to fight for food amongst themselves they now have a second or third or now even a 5th species to compete with. Do you understand better now?

Us native Floridians, who have been here for 4+ generations don't want to see or deal with these new animals. If we wanted to go see them. we'd go to the damn zoo. Is it starting to click now? Just because some recently transplanted yankee or whoever doesn't mind or in most cases do not know any better wants no regulations on reptiles, have no stake whatsoever in this discussion. at all. period.

Go these books about the everglades. By Patrick Smith. There titled Forever Island; and Allapattah. These will change mind, no doubt about it.

 

[krzr3000]

Let me put it in layman's terms. The 'glades aren't like the school cafeteria where there is enough food to go around for everybody. The 'glades is just like anywhere else in the world thats being threatened like this. You introduce a new exotic species, now, not only does the natives species have to fight for food amongst themselves they now have a second or third or now even a 5th species to compete with. Do you understand better now?

Us native Floridians, who have been here for 4+ generations don't want to see or deal with these new animals. If we wanted to go see them. we'd go to the damn zoo. Is it starting to click now? Just because some recently transplanted yankee or whoever doesn't mind or in most cases do not know any better wants no regulations on reptiles, have no stake whatsoever in this discussion. at all. period.

Go these books about the everglades. By Patrick Smith. There titled Forever Island; and Allapattah. These will change mind, no doubt about it.

lollll, i never claimed they are beneficial. Just curious about how big of an issue it is to warrant a new news story seemingly every week. And its great to see that floridians care about the environment, looking at the ocean of parking lots, condos, and shopping centers would incline someone to think otherwise. Also, have the politicians that are at the forefront of the python media frenzy always been so "eco conscious" per say? Have they made as much noise about limiting development and protecting open space?

 

[Louie]

Let me put it in layman's terms. The 'glades aren't like the school cafeteria where there is enough food to go around for everybody. The 'glades is just like anywhere else in the world thats being threatened like this. You introduce a new exotic species, now, not only does the natives species have to fight for food amongst themselves they now have a second or third or now even a 5th species to compete with. Do you understand better now?

Us native Floridians, who have been here for 4+ generations don't want to see or deal with these new animals. If we wanted to go see them. we'd go to the damn zoo. Is it starting to click now? Just because some recently transplanted yankee or whoever doesn't mind or in most cases do not know any better wants no regulations on reptiles, have no stake whatsoever in this discussion. at all. period.

Go these books about the everglades. By Patrick Smith. There titled Forever Island; and Allapattah. These will change mind, no doubt about it.

As a "Yankee" from NY I have spoken to lots of eldrerly here and you have to admit many non natives have been here for hundred yrs plus with no ill effects.

I have non native Peacocks who "hang out" by my garage and they are harmless now the zillion cats running around now those are not harmless not to mention filthy.

 

[Thecooler]

man this is not uncool. Once again, it all comes down to the dumb, uneducated, and irresponsible pet owners that are causing this.

 

[megalops///]

lollll, i never claimed they are beneficial. Just curious about how big of an issue it is to warrant a new news story seemingly every week. And its great to see that floridians care about the environment, looking at the ocean of parking lots, condos, and shopping centers would incline someone to think otherwise. Also, have the politicians that are at the forefront of the python media frenzy always been so "eco conscious" per say? Have they made as much noise about limiting development and protecting open space?

This is about keeping a protected national treasure safe. It's just like yellowstone or the grandcannon, but a swamp. lol, I know that sound rediculous but its all the same in the grand scheme of things.

 

[chefjamesscott]

I said it was just my opinion. Never stated fact.

Sorry I ruffled you feathers.

Here is one of the NEVER EVERS.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-07-02/news/orlando_1_python-darnell-snake

that poor little girl

forgive me for saying this but at least fish don't eat children

I have a corn snake, and have had other snakes , but, I just do not see the reason to own a snake that can kill a human being.

 

[megalops///]

As a "Yankee" from NY I have spoken to lots of eldrerly here and you have to admit many non natives have been here for hundred yrs plus with no ill effects.

I have non native Peacocks who "hang out" by my garage and they are harmless now the zillion cats running around now those are not harmless not to mention filthy.

I have those damn Liberace turkeys all around my house too. They taste good too IMO.