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Why does everyone blame the school for thier childs suicide? Bullying has existed forever. Teach your kid to stand up for them selves, and if they need help from a shrink get them one.

Help your child, stop just standing back. And if your child kills themself, its thier fault. No one elses. They are the one that made the consicious decision to take thier life or attempt it. Stop blaming the schools, stop tryin to get charges pressed.

When my mother attempted suicide a few months ago, did i blame my step dad? No. I know he helped push her thier but i know she had other issues. She has had them. She tryd to take the cowards way out instead of trying to get help for her problems. She since has gotten help btw and is doin better.

Basically, stop blaming everyone else. Please.
 
And when I was a Kid my dad could teach me to stand up for myself.
Now it's called child abuse.
We've gotten critical on the specifics of child rearing
and lost focus on the big picture.
c'est la vie
 
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Lepisosteus platyrhincus;4516443; said:
Why does everyone blame the school for thier childs suicide? Bullying has existed forever. Teach your kid to stand up for them selves, and if they need help from a shrink get them one.

Help your child, stop just standing back. And if your child kills themself, its thier fault. No one elses. They are the one that made the consicious decision to take thier life or attempt it. Stop blaming the schools, stop tryin to get charges pressed.

When my mother attempted suicide a few months ago, did i blame my step dad? No. I know he helped push her thier but i know she had other issues. She has had them. She tryd to take the cowards way out instead of trying to get help for her problems. She since has gotten help btw and is doin better.

Basically, stop blaming everyone else. Please.


^ Agreed :)
 
Not sure which of the suicides we're talking about (four teenagers have killed themselves this month in the U.S. following anti-*** bullying), but I would guess it is the kid at Rutgers.

I don't blame the school, it's that kid's roommates that should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. It's pretty darned crazy that anyone would even consider doing something that vile.
 
I was raised by "old school" parents. They taught me not to start any crap but also taught me that i didn't have to take any crap either. The problem is that "old school" parents get in trouble for raising their children to give repect to get respect. In todays world the children have more rights than the parents..

Good thread,
Chris
 
All i have to say on the subject is people in general any more do not will not accept responsability for thier actions always trying to put of thier responsability on somebody else and not willing to pay the piper so to speak for what they have done.It's always someone elses fault that caused them to do it .Don't get me wrong there are still good people around.But icreasingly in my business Paint contracter not all the time but occasionally every once in a while you run into chumps that sign the contract you do the work and seem suprised that you actually want to be paid !!!:WHOA::WHOA:Just a game with people like this ..The same with your example somone else cuased this not them:screwy::screwy:Its not the schools responsability to raise our children it's our privilage and ours alone:D
 
I understand your reasoning, but you also have to understand that nowadays bullying has become more emotional than physical, although there is still some physical parts as well though. But nowadays, not only are kids not taught to stand up for themselves physically, because honestly sometimes I believe a little physical confrontation solves problems, as my father puts it "pain is a universal language" lol :). I was taught to stand up for myself but in middle school bullying was a big problem, I saw it all over the place and it was very frustrating when it seemed no one could help, luckily my parents took a good handle on things but at the school itself no one seemed to be able to help. I once got my bike stolen, so i told the cop, who said without the vin number he couldnt do anything, well the kid who took my bike got some of his buddies to hold me off while he ran off with my bike, so the cop just left me there, real productive. And I caught up to the kid at the street light and told the crossing guard, who somehow got convinced by the other kid that I was trying to steal his bike, she said there was nothing she could do and then drove off (she literally left her post after I had a problem occuring right then and there in front of her).
I never wanted to get in trouble at school but the kids doing the bullying could care less, I once got suspended for a few days because a kid at my school was throwing rocks at me, so I chased him down and fought him, now this happened after my bike incident, had I received support the first time I would have talked to someone, but this time I took matters in my own hands, I got suspended but it also never happened again.
To get back on topic more so, I feel like certain schools handle bullying better than others, prevention is the first step but knowing how to handle it after should of concern as well.
Now I do agree with in some respects, kids should take things in their own hands, stick up for themselves, but for a lot of the emotional bullying a fist fight doesnt seem logical to them. So what are they to do, they must talk to someone, but some people dont help (as I've shown) and some children don't want to speak out about such issues. It's a very controversial topic, I try to keep a moderate approach, no one seems to be at full blame. But everyone needs to do their part.
Also, the bully themselves need to grow up. I noticed a lot of the bullies at my school were held back multiple years, kids that dropped out going into highschool. They should be separated from those that want to learn, I know there is special ed but they need special attention all the time (or even to be sent to separate schools, which here in florida we do have as well). Most the bullies at my school were not in any of my classes but messed with kids outside of the classroom, but still on campus.
 
Every case is different with differing issues. We can't generalize and throw all of them into the same bucket. The bottom line is that no one wants a loved one to be a victim of mental issues that lead to suicide.

Nowadays, there are many tools that make bullying easy and effective. Gone are the days where a bully caught a victim at school and administered his punishment mainly at school. Now we have cell phones for texting. We have social websites for literary harassment.

This is a different time and kids are very, very impressionable and susceptible to peer pressure. They always have been. It's just that there are tools that Now allow for harsher means of harassment.
 
pi-eyed;4516500; said:
I was raised by "old school" parents. They taught me not to start any crap but also taught me that i didn't have to take any crap either. The problem is that "old school" parents get in trouble for raising their children to give repect to get respect. In todays world the children have more rights than the parents..

Good thread,
Chris

I do Agree with this^^^
 
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