This is just sick

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guppy said:
I really think they are bred that way, they are not much different then the redsnow butterfly discus that have been bred for years, there is also a tailess strain blood parrot and even tailless angel fish. People like oddities and will try to breed anything out of the ordinary like veiltails, shortbodies, angelwing stingrays, etc.
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Are you sure about this? Any sources? I was always under the impression that fish like the tailess or "unicorn" bloods were physically altered.
 
M|L said:
I highly doubt the tails of these discus are intentionally "clipped" at an young age.

It that is the case, then why are there only two strains available?

Think about it, if this practice can be done on the red and orange strains, why couldn't it be done on the different strains of discus? Wouldn't that potentially attract a bigger audience by selling more than just two strains?

Or is it a different case?

Are these genetically mutated by birth and it just happens that only the red and orange strains are so far "developed" to produce future generations of "tailess" and "short-body heart shaped" discus?

I believe the latter makes more sense to me unless there are proven facts to disapprove it.
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Because red and orange are the color of hearts?
 
they are clipped, i remember reading quite a bit about them when they were first "made". the tails are clipped young then the body developes in a way so that the top and bottom fin is altered for swimming.
 
Couple sites mention them being bred, Also that type mutation is not that uncommon in the wild though most are eaten before they can pass on the gene, here is a picture of an adult spotted seatrout ( Cynoscion nebulosis) caught off Texas. Also blood parrots and website http://www.geocities.com/parrotcichlid/general.html
and http://www.aqualog.de/site/latest pictures/2002/49newsUK.html
And in channel cats http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6667893&dopt=Abstract
http://www.aquaworldnet.org/tas/DrNorton18.html
any time you have so many fry being produced you have a chance of odd mutations.

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Jeeeezzzs, let begin a MKF protest agains that kind of deformed fish! Some of you may like it, I hate it.
 
I feel like :nutkick: those people who do that. The sad thing is that people just buy those fish without knowing how bad it is. And half of the ones that do know don't care.
 
That is just stupid. I bet people that buy those also have three legged dogs and one eyed cats.
 
i agree with this. i find it hard to believe that you could even clip its tail without stressing it and killing it. i havent kept discuss but if they are as sensitive as everyone claims wouldnt that be enough to do them in. if its just a genetic thing then its no worse than fancy guppies or longtail tetras and danios.


in fact, in this area there are people breeding what they are calling 'humpback' guppies. ones that have an arched back like they have scoliosis or something. and people like them. as far as them not being able to compete, im sure theyd do just fine in an aquarium. maybe not in the wild but in your own tank theyd be just fine.
 
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