Thoughts on future breeding projects?

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nc_nutcase;4955019; said:
I only suggest doing this with Ball Pythons becaues there are so many morphs of Balls...

The theory I suggested would look like this...

Morphed Ball x Pure Berm...
Morphed BermBall (50/50) x Pure Berm...
Morphed BermBall (75/25) x Pure Berm...
Morphed BermBall (87.5/12.5) x Pure Berm...
Morphed BermBall (93.75/6.25) x Pure Berm...
etc, etc, etc...

While this process will never yield a "100% Morphed Berm" It is probable the "morphed" genetics can be kept while washing almost all of the "Ball" genetics out...

There is no guarentee that the morphed genetics will hold true in the hybrid, and at any point in "washing out" the Ball genetics there is a slight risk the morph will stop passing... but the stronger chance is the process will work as suggested above.

This concept could be applied with any Ball Python morph... and utilized with any species that can hybridize with Ball Pythons and still be fertile.

I am VERY against doing that. That one of the reasons some people hate hybrids is because irresponsible people will create a hybrid that looks pure and sell it as a pure snake. This makes me wonder if some of the newer morphs of species are actually pure at all.
 
I'm not sure if I like what I am reading. I guess hybridizing snakes is very cool for people at the moment, but I just can't stand it. I'd rather like to see increased breedings of rare/endangered species so they are available to the public.

- Australia is full of gecko species that are beautiful but only few can have them because of the non existing exports.

- It's a shame that Uroplatus aren't more common in the hobby


Personally I would like to see some red sidenecked turtles (Rhinemys rufipes) available, but Brazil doesn't allow exports...
 
FishFreak95;4985472; said:
I am VERY against doing that. That one of the reasons some people hate hybrids is because irresponsible people will create a hybrid that looks pure and sell it as a pure snake. This makes me wonder if some of the newer morphs of species are actually pure at all.
There are always going to be scumbags like that out there, whether there are hybrids or not.... At the moment there are a fair number of people selling normal burms or retics as dwarfs, for 10x the normal price..:irked:
 
I think part of the appeal of hybridizing is that it produces a rare and unique snake, which is something that can be very appealing for someone who has grown bored of all the commonly kept ones.
 
FishFreak95;4985462; said:
I wanna see more:
f2 imperial pueblan (banana king/pueb milk)
Sinacorns, Pueblacorns, and Corndurans (var. milk species/Corn)

I want there to be:
Milk snake X Bull Snake [Sinabull, Puebull, Bullduran(made up names)]
Imperial pueblacorn (Imperial pueblan/Corn)
f2 tessera corn snake X Pueblan milk
(Black rat snake X Black milk snake) X Black Pine Snake

colubrid hybrid list could be endless lol. the best part is that most of these hybrids are fertile, so theres also endless hybrid X dif Hybrid possibilites :drool: I hope to work on a Andean milk(largest milk species :D) X Bull Snake eventually
Actually I believe Honduran milks are biggest... Females can reach over 8 feet.
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A. gigas;4986975; said:
Actually I believe Honduran milks are biggest... Females can reach over 8 feet.
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Really? every site ive been on says a max of 3 - 4 feet and the 2 largest are black milk and andean. If thats true ill get a honduran and a bull then (after i get more experience). Can you link me to a site? Did you see it in person? If not, can you show me the website? I just want to be sure
 
FishFreak95;4987659; said:
Really? every site ive been on says a max of 3 - 4 feet and the 2 largest are black milk and andean. If thats true ill get a honduran and a bull then (after i get more experience). Can you link me to a site? Did you see it in person? If not, can you show me the website? I just want to be sure
http://www.repticzone.com/forums/MilkSnakes/messages/1926589.html

I had a female a while back that was in the 5-6 foot range, and only around 4 years old or so.

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