TIGRINUS DEAD =-(
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They are abundant in the cataracts of the amazon..if im not mistaken its called the teutonic. An area of the amazon that has very fast moving current.
I was also being lazy when i mentioned high temps without explaining the correlation bet high temperature and low oxygen levels.
The "bloat" or "hump" could have occured post mortem.. or did R1 mention the tig having a hump just before it died? There you go, im too lazy to go back and read the post again.
I am curious as to how you suspect High temps + lack of oxygen bloated up the tig.
I will cite sources but id rather you work for it...Youre the best right?
Now read my post and tell my how i said high temps and lack of oxygen bloated up the tig.
I mentioned post mortem which actually means "after death". Decomposition and bacteria can bloat up organisms post mortem.
You mentioned High temps... then you made a post, the one I quoted, explaining how you were to lazy to explain about hightemps + lack of O2.
OK i did open my "source".. Not just "google" up information. I did put a question mark
when i did write TEUTONICS as i forgot the exact word. The area is called the TEUTONIO CATRARACTS and this is one area of the amazon where M.Tigrinum is found.
when i did write TEUTONICS as i forgot the exact word. The area is called the TEUTONIO CATRARACTS and this is one area of the amazon where M.Tigrinum is found.
Again, you do not read posts correctly.. I initially stated that high temps was the cause of the tigs death... but i did not explain that high temps = low oxygen content of the tank which would be detrimental for a catfish that thrives in fast flowing water ( = high oxygen ) .
Never did i say anything correlating the bloat with high temps and oxygen. I initially even mentioned a bacterial infection. But then you are not really reading the thread, just looking to start an argument with posts you think you can win. right?
Think?... LOL!
I figured you would atleast accept the idea that the swelling was linked to the hightemp-Low O2..
because it would have to be, if the tigrinus died from the high temps...
If you didnt link these 2 (swelling and hightemp-low02), than you are just spewing out information that is covering up the real cause. Obviously the fish died from swelling... so if lack of O2 does not cause swelling, then why would you even mention it?
You were on the right track. why did you turn off? what made you consider the high temps over your original idea?
Nonsense, pure speculation. Cite me sources as i have had it with your flawed ideas.
If you spew anything other than ideas backed up with reliable sources , considered it deleted.
This is an article about newts but could be a reason how heat would cause the bloat.
The most common cause of kidney damage in the newts would be dehydration or HEAT STRESS sometime in the period after collection but before the newt ended up in the herpetoculturist's collection. Kidney damage can cause the symptoms of bloat DAYS to weeks following the cause of the damage as the kidneys slowly shut down (Wright, 1996). Kidney damage would explain why newly-imported newts often come down with "bloat", do not respond to antibiotic treatment, and do not pass the condition on to the other amphibians in the enclosure (as would be expected for a strictly bacterial infection). This would also explain why there are some spontaneous remissions of bloat (the damage was not so extensive the animal could not recover on its own, or the causative factor was starvation).
The article is found here
http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/bloatEDK.shtml
I know they are two different species but maybe the tigs kidneys shut down because of the high temp.
The most common cause of kidney damage in the newts would be dehydration or HEAT STRESS sometime in the period after collection but before the newt ended up in the herpetoculturist's collection. Kidney damage can cause the symptoms of bloat DAYS to weeks following the cause of the damage as the kidneys slowly shut down (Wright, 1996). Kidney damage would explain why newly-imported newts often come down with "bloat", do not respond to antibiotic treatment, and do not pass the condition on to the other amphibians in the enclosure (as would be expected for a strictly bacterial infection). This would also explain why there are some spontaneous remissions of bloat (the damage was not so extensive the animal could not recover on its own, or the causative factor was starvation).
The article is found here
http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/bloatEDK.shtml
I know they are two different species but maybe the tigs kidneys shut down because of the high temp.
