To Styro or Not to Styro?

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo

What do you this of using styro on GLASS tanks?

  • I refuse to use foam on my tanks

    Votes: 29 18.4%
  • I might use foam in certain instances, but generally no.

    Votes: 59 37.3%
  • I have heard that foam might be good, so I would lean towards yes.

    Votes: 30 19.0%
  • Foam actually makes a difference. I use it every time.

    Votes: 40 25.3%

  • Total voters
    158
LOL, I realized I posted that in the wrong thread and was able to delete. Tempered scares me because I had a 55 with a tempered back and was moving houses and cleaning it out in the bathtub. I barely grazed it against the fauset and it shattered. Scared the crap out of me. My fish were living in 5gal buckets for a few days while I was trying to find a new tank. At least with a crack you might get a slow enough leak to save your fish...maybe.
 
The way I see it, the foam does nothing for actually leveling the tank as a whole, but if a single corner of the stand is a bit low, the foam will fill in and compensate a bit. It helps if the stand is warped or somethin like that.
Pharoah does make a good point though... maybe its just staying expanded and there's no actual tank weight resting on it at all, so its just giving us a warm fuzzy feeling inside that everything will be okay....
I'm sticking with "everything will be okay"
 
12 Volt Man;2298956; said:
one thing I have wondered is this:

which is better: non tempered bottom or tempered bottom?

(if you are not drilling of course)?

my existing tanks do not have tempered glass anywhere.

my next tank, the Aqueon 150 gallon, will have a tempered bottom..

now, because I am not drilling, that is not a concern.

but which is better structurally, tempered or non-tempered?
If the manufacturer uses tempered over non in most large tanks they build, you gotta figure they know more than us about the strength and reasons why.
 
zennzzo;2301128; said:
yeah they can produce a lighter cheaper product...

doesn't tempered glass cost and weigh more?
 
NOLAGT;2302141; said:
Exactly what do they do to temper it...is it a heat thing?


Tempered glass breaks in a unique way. If any part of the glass fails, the entire panel shatters at once. This distinguishes it from normal glass, which might experience a small crack or localized breakage from an isolated impact. Tempered glass might also fail long after the event that caused the failure. Stresses continue to play until the defect erupts, triggering breakage of the entire panel.

To prepare glass for the tempering process, it must first be cut to the desired size. (Strength reductions or product failure can occur if any fabrication operations, such as etching or edging, take place after heat treatment.) The glass is then examined for imperfections that could cause breakage at any step during tempering. An abrasive such as sandpaper takes sharp edges off the glass, which is subsequently washed.

Next, the glass begins a heat treatment process in which it travels through a tempering oven, either in a batch or continuous feed. The oven heats the glass to a temperature of more than 600 degrees Celsius. (The industry standard is 620 degrees Celsius.) The glass then undergoes a high-pressure cooling procedure called "quenching." During this process, which lasts just seconds, high-pressure air blasts the surface of the glass from an array of nozzles in varying positions. Quenching cools the outer surfaces of the glass much more quickly than the center. As the center of the glass cools, it tries to pull back from the outer surfaces. As a result, the center remains in tension, and the outer surfaces go into compression, which gives tempered glass its strength.
Glass in tension breaks about five times more easily than it does in compression. Annealed glass will break at 6,000 pounds per square inch (psi). Tempered glass, according to federal specifications, must have a surface compression of 10,000 psi or more; it generally breaks at approximately 24,000 psi.
 
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