Topfin Cichlid Pellets VS Cichlid Gold

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if its so good why isnt it sold everywhere? like i just said the only store ive seen in my area that has it is petco and that includes stores that have been here since the 70's
 
New Life Spectrum is amazing but, how do we know everything they put in it, is true?

I would pick cichlid gold over topfin cichlid pellets, but topfin has way more ingredients in it.
 
what makes them all different if they have the same things in them pretty much?
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It's not that difficult to compare foods, even if all one has is a general guideline to go off, such as an ingredient list. As an example, check the ingredients listed in order of weight between the two products in question.


Hikari Gold

Ingredients:
Fish meal, wheat flour, flaked corn, brewer's dried yeast, wheat bran, gluten meal, fish oil, dried a. niger fermentation extract, garlic, astaxantin, DL-methionine, monosodium glutamate, vitamin a oil, vitamin d3 supplement, vitamin e supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin k), choline chloride, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (stabilize vitamin c), inositol, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin, thiamine mononitrate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, niacin, folic acid, biotin, ferrous sulfate, magnesium sulfate, zinc sulfate, manganese sulfate, cobalt sulfate, calcium iodate, sodium acid pyrophosphate.

Guaranteed Analysis:

Crude Protein (min) 40.0%
Crude Fat (min) 4%
Crude Fiber (max) 4.0%
Moisture (max) 10.0%
Ash (max) 15.0%
Phosphorus (min) 1.0%
Additives:

Vitamin A - 15,000 IU/kg
Vitamin C - 78 mg/kg
Vitamin D3 - 3,100 IU/kg
Vitamin E - 300 mg/kg


Top Fin Cichlid Pellets


Ingredients:
Wheat flour, fish meal, wheat gluten, potato protein, corn gluten meal, corn starch, shrimp meal, dried yeast, dehulled soybean meal, wheat germ meal, soybean oil, feeding oat meal, monobasic calcium phosphate, lecithin, algae meal, l-lysine monohydrochloride, yeast extract, ascorbic acid (vitamin c), inositol, a-tocopherol-acetate, niacin, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (stabilized vitamin c), riboflavin-5-phosphate, d-calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, choline chloride, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin a palmitate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex, folic acid, biotin, cyanocobalamin, cholecalciferol, manganese sulfate monohydrate, zinc sulfate monohydrate, ferrous sulfate monohydrate, cobalt nitrate hexahydrate. Color includes: Beta-carotene, annatto extract, canthaxanthin, iron oxide red. Ethoxyquin and citric acid both used as preservatives.

Guaranteed Analysis:

Crude Protein (min) 43.0%
Crude Fat (min) 7.0%
Crude Fiber (max) 2.0%
Moisture (max) 9.0%
Phosphorus (min) 0.7%
Vitamin C (min) 345 mg/kg

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Corn flakes, gluten meal, potato protein, corn starch, dehulled soybean meal, feeding oat meal

Not exactly ingredients that I would feed any of my fish, not that I think those that do are dumb/stupid/ignorant. But they might be. :)


For those that prefer Hikari brand, IMHO Hikari Bio-Gold is a better option, vs the lower cost, lower quality Gold formula. While I realize that this wasn't part of the OP's question, just thought that I would toss it into the mix as an ingredient comparison.


Hikari Bio-Gold

Ingredients: Fish meal, wheat flour, brewer's dried yeast, gluten meal, spirulina, fish oil, bacillus subtillus, enzyme, garlic, astaxanthin, monosodium glutamate, vitamins and minerals including stabilized vitamin C.

Guaranteed Analysis: Crude Protein 45% (Min.), Crude Fat 5% (Min.), Crude Fiber 2% (Max.), Moisture 15% (Max.), Phosphorus 1% (Min.), Microorganisms 10,000 CFU/g (Min.).

Additives: Vitamin A - 26,000 IU/kg, Vitamin C - 140 mg/kg, Vitamin D3 - 5,300 IU/kg, Vitamin E - 900 mg/kg.
 
RD. said:
It's not that difficult to compare foods, even if all one has is a general guideline to go off, such as an ingredient list. As an example, check the ingredients listed in order of weight between the two products in question.


Hikari Gold

Ingredients:
Fish meal, wheat flour, flaked corn, brewer's dried yeast, wheat bran, gluten meal, fish oil, dried a. niger fermentation extract, garlic, astaxantin, DL-methionine, monosodium glutamate, vitamin a oil, vitamin d3 supplement, vitamin e supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin k), choline chloride, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (stabilize vitamin c), inositol, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin, thiamine mononitrate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, niacin, folic acid, biotin, ferrous sulfate, magnesium sulfate, zinc sulfate, manganese sulfate, cobalt sulfate, calcium iodate, sodium acid pyrophosphate.

Guaranteed Analysis:

Crude Protein (min) 40.0%
Crude Fat (min) 4%
Crude Fiber (max) 4.0%
Moisture (max) 10.0%
Ash (max) 15.0%
Phosphorus (min) 1.0%
Additives:

Vitamin A - 15,000 IU/kg
Vitamin C - 78 mg/kg
Vitamin D3 - 3,100 IU/kg
Vitamin E - 300 mg/kg


Top Fin Cichlid Pellets


Ingredients:
Wheat flour, fish meal, wheat gluten, potato protein, corn gluten meal, corn starch, shrimp meal, dried yeast, dehulled soybean meal, wheat germ meal, soybean oil, feeding oat meal, monobasic calcium phosphate, lecithin, algae meal, l-lysine monohydrochloride, yeast extract, ascorbic acid (vitamin c), inositol, a-tocopherol-acetate, niacin, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (stabilized vitamin c), riboflavin-5-phosphate, d-calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, choline chloride, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin a palmitate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex, folic acid, biotin, cyanocobalamin, cholecalciferol, manganese sulfate monohydrate, zinc sulfate monohydrate, ferrous sulfate monohydrate, cobalt nitrate hexahydrate. Color includes: Beta-carotene, annatto extract, canthaxanthin, iron oxide red. Ethoxyquin and citric acid both used as preservatives.

Guaranteed Analysis:

Crude Protein (min) 43.0%
Crude Fat (min) 7.0%
Crude Fiber (max) 2.0%
Moisture (max) 9.0%
Phosphorus (min) 0.7%
Vitamin C (min) 345 mg/kg

.......................................


Corn flakes, gluten meal, potato protein, corn starch, dehulled soybean meal, feeding oat meal

Not exactly ingredients that I would feed any of my fish, not that I think those that do are dumb/stupid/ignorant. But they might be. :)


For those that prefer Hikari brand, IMHO Hikari Bio-Gold is a better option, vs the lower cost, lower quality Gold formula. While I realize that this wasn't part of the OP's question, just thought that I would toss it into the mix as an ingredient comparison.


Hikari Bio-Gold

Ingredients: Fish meal, wheat flour, brewer's dried yeast, gluten meal, spirulina, fish oil, bacillus subtillus, enzyme, garlic, astaxanthin, monosodium glutamate, vitamins and minerals including stabilized vitamin C.

Guaranteed Analysis: Crude Protein 45% (Min.), Crude Fat 5% (Min.), Crude Fiber 2% (Max.), Moisture 15% (Max.), Phosphorus 1% (Min.), Microorganisms 10,000 CFU/g (Min.).

Additives: Vitamin A - 26,000 IU/kg, Vitamin C - 140 mg/kg, Vitamin D3 - 5,300 IU/kg, Vitamin E - 900 mg/kg.
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That must of took you awhile lol.
 
..... about 2 minutes, cut & paste directly from the PetSmart website.
 
RD. said:
It's not that difficult to compare foods, even if all one has is a general guideline to go off, such as an ingredient list. As an example, check the ingredients listed in order of weight between the two products in question.


Hikari Gold

Ingredients:
Fish meal, wheat flour, flaked corn, brewer's dried yeast, wheat bran, gluten meal, fish oil, dried a. niger fermentation extract, garlic, astaxantin, DL-methionine, monosodium glutamate, vitamin a oil, vitamin d3 supplement, vitamin e supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin k), choline chloride, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (stabilize vitamin c), inositol, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin, thiamine mononitrate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, niacin, folic acid, biotin, ferrous sulfate, magnesium sulfate, zinc sulfate, manganese sulfate, cobalt sulfate, calcium iodate, sodium acid pyrophosphate.

Guaranteed Analysis:

Crude Protein (min) 40.0%
Crude Fat (min) 4%
Crude Fiber (max) 4.0%
Moisture (max) 10.0%
Ash (max) 15.0%
Phosphorus (min) 1.0%
Additives:

Vitamin A - 15,000 IU/kg
Vitamin C - 78 mg/kg
Vitamin D3 - 3,100 IU/kg
Vitamin E - 300 mg/kg


Top Fin Cichlid Pellets


Ingredients:
Wheat flour, fish meal, wheat gluten, potato protein, corn gluten meal, corn starch, shrimp meal, dried yeast, dehulled soybean meal, wheat germ meal, soybean oil, feeding oat meal, monobasic calcium phosphate, lecithin, algae meal, l-lysine monohydrochloride, yeast extract, ascorbic acid (vitamin c), inositol, a-tocopherol-acetate, niacin, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (stabilized vitamin c), riboflavin-5-phosphate, d-calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, choline chloride, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin a palmitate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex, folic acid, biotin, cyanocobalamin, cholecalciferol, manganese sulfate monohydrate, zinc sulfate monohydrate, ferrous sulfate monohydrate, cobalt nitrate hexahydrate. Color includes: Beta-carotene, annatto extract, canthaxanthin, iron oxide red. Ethoxyquin and citric acid both used as preservatives.

Guaranteed Analysis:

Crude Protein (min) 43.0%
Crude Fat (min) 7.0%
Crude Fiber (max) 2.0%
Moisture (max) 9.0%
Phosphorus (min) 0.7%
Vitamin C (min) 345 mg/kg

.......................................


Corn flakes, gluten meal, potato protein, corn starch, dehulled soybean meal, feeding oat meal

Not exactly ingredients that I would feed any of my fish, not that I think those that do are dumb/stupid/ignorant. But they might be. :)


For those that prefer Hikari brand, IMHO Hikari Bio-Gold is a better option, vs the lower cost, lower quality Gold formula. While I realize that this wasn't part of the OP's question, just thought that I would toss it into the mix as an ingredient comparison.


Hikari Bio-Gold

Ingredients: Fish meal, wheat flour, brewer's dried yeast, gluten meal, spirulina, fish oil, bacillus subtillus, enzyme, garlic, astaxanthin, monosodium glutamate, vitamins and minerals including stabilized vitamin C.

Guaranteed Analysis: Crude Protein 45% (Min.), Crude Fat 5% (Min.), Crude Fiber 2% (Max.), Moisture 15% (Max.), Phosphorus 1% (Min.), Microorganisms 10,000 CFU/g (Min.).

Additives: Vitamin A - 26,000 IU/kg, Vitamin C - 140 mg/kg, Vitamin D3 - 5,300 IU/kg, Vitamin E - 900 mg/kg.
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Thanks RD. You are so helpful. :)
 
We have had thread after thread of food debates where a few select members want to troll, keep this one clean or it goes..
 
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