total dissapointment with FW tank

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lol thanks and me and other members decided i would be better off going with africans and that is my current plan. but i would have to disagree with salt costing so much more and reef tanks slowly killing its inhabitants because i have seen people successfully keep even small reef tanks for many years and if you find a good deal at start up everything else comes up pretty cheap. i found someone selling a 10 gallon fully set up salt tank for 200 O.B.O with 6 different colors of zoa and 6 corals and a couple clowns and a scooter blenny. i know in comparison to fresh i could get a 50+ gallon fully set up for even less but my point is that if you look around you can find great deals. those silly IMHO nano cubes are like 400 and they come with nothing and are like 8 gallons but i found something bigger for half the price with everything in it. so in conclusion salt is more expensive to start but not much more to maintain and setting up a discus tank can cost as much and more than a reef tank. and finally sorry if im coming off rude or too strong just that when you type something its hard to show emotions or tone
 
difference i had was salt water required a more maintenance also another reason its really expensive corals are not cheap.

Fresh water setups rock because in my opinion watching some peacock bass and Florida gars knocking down feeders and pellets is a site to see and the maintenance is alot less aggravating.
 
I agree with you totally. It's just that salt is a lot to keep up with. Everything across the board costs more. So unless you are inheriting a full setup off a large tank at a huge discount.. it's just not as glorious as it seems.

That's not to say I wouldn't want to someday have a HUGE saltwater aquarium settled with an Asfur angel ruling his territory. :)

If you really want to get into it then go for it. :)

You don't come across rude at all. If you go the salt route, you may find that it costs a lot more than you bargained for.
 
difference i had was salt water required a more maintenance also another reason its really expensive corals are not cheap.

Fresh water setups rock because in my opinion watching some peacock bass and Florida gars knocking down feeders and pellets is a site to see and the maintenance is alot less aggravating.
lol dont get me wrong, i prefer to stay fresh any day. TBH i get confused even looking at some salt tanks lool.
hopefully i will be happy with my african cichlid tank and not ever feel like i need a change but if i do i will start up a second smaller tank and if i hate it i will appreciate my peacocks more if i love it i will expand into the bigger tank.
 
I agree with you totally. It's just that salt is a lot to keep up with. Everything across the board costs more. So unless you are inheriting a full setup off a large tank at a huge discount.. it's just not as glorious as it seems.

That's not to say I wouldn't want to someday have a HUGE saltwater aquarium settled with an Asfur angel ruling his territory. :)

If you really want to get into it then go for it. :)

You don't come across rude at all. If you go the salt route, you may find that it costs a lot more than you bargained for.

oh totally, i would never dream of starting salt from scratch or even starting with a huge tank, i want to tank jump lol, buying established tanks at much lower prices and moving up in size. many people dont know what they are getting into and lose intrest after a couple months so i come in and clean up lol. and thanks i just wanted to make sure
 
I know you seem to have your mind made up, but if theres something you specifically want for SW, make the switch when you get the urge. I've always kept FW, but over the years dabbled in brackish and some marine fish (volitans lionfish, dogface puffer, a few different eel species). But around December 2010 wanted to keep moray eels again, and pretty much gave away my cichlid collection to a friend. I had these fish since like 2005 and had gotten attached to them, but went and made a couple of SW setups for a few eels, and don't regret it at all. The only difference is the $$ when it comes to water changes, as all my fish are inexpensive species...but I enjoy them and that's what matters in this hobby.
 
ive always been a freshwater person, but one day i just couldnt stay away from saltwater anymore
i ended up spending a whole bunch of money for live rock, live sand, protein skimmer, and all the necessities
i bought a clown trigger and a few tangs
they are colorful colorful fish. very pleasant for the eyes, but BOOOORING compared to CA/SA cichlids
i never got to get the fish i wanted for saltwater though (miniatus grouper) but im not sure if it would've made much of a difference
long story short i converted the saltwater tank back to a freshwater tank

see this is exactly what i'm referring to, the site is pro fresh. now i'm not trying to convince people to get a salt as i am a huge fan of freshwater and setting one up as we speak. however, big triggers, wrasses, angels, puffers, groupers all have as much if not more personality as any sa/ca i have ever owned. apparently you didn't think your clown trigger had much personality , that would probably be the exception to the rule as most owners of big triggers get them because of their personality and aggressiveness, especially the clown trigger. i think boring is the last adjective i would use to describe that fish.

also regarding maintenance, an established saltwater is about the lowest maintenance and stable tank you can own, a big skimmer and alot of live rock for filteration makes it a piece of cake. i spend 1 hour a week cleaning the skimmer and glass, 1 hour a month total to prep the water to change, 1 hour to change , top off is automated, feeding is automated except for the eel which i feed twice a week takes about 10 minutes. i bet most freshwater people spend much more time on maintenance of their tanks :dunno:

i'll get off my soapbox and just accept the fact this site favors freshwater , which is fine different strokes for different folks :grinno:
 
I used to have a 90gal reef tank and it is really beautiful. Having said that the costs of corals and fish plus the maintenance is very high, not to mention the equipments. Should I dip my hands in saltwater tank again...yes, but I am always having a second thought about it. Currently I only have a 180gal jardini tank, am I happy with it? Yes without a doubt! I also used to have a 55gal mbuna tank and it is one of my favorite tank, imagine the yellow colors of yellow labs, the blues of acei, the orange/brown color of rusty cichlid and the colorful peacocks. How about a planted south American tank with shoal of neon tetras and german blue ram. Don't limit your imaginations when it comes to freshwater tank.
 
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