Treating Hexamita aka Spironucleus

[RD.]

You're welcome.

 

[Miguel]

So do you have PHD in Medicine or Vet medicine? You're not a Sales rep for NLS are you? lol

All of those Threads were infact started by you, no?

Have you ever heard of the Chemicals Allicin and Ajoene?

As a matter of fact, Neill knows what he is writing about.

And yes, mentioned threads are his.

 

[Mastiffman]

okay, I beleive that he knows what he's writing about as well. But once again, I never heard an answer on the Chemicals mentioned above?

Have you ever heard of those chemicals? They are in Garlic...

 

[NationsMostWanted]

oh hey guys! i made a thread in the FH forum and no one seemed to reply much. My guy has been having hardly any poop and not eating for the past two months. He just looks really lazy and sits there in his corner. He moves a little when i turn off his light. I believed he had Hex as well and few weeks ago i tried 2 treatments of general cure and it didnt seem to do anything. I been adding Epsom salt and soaking some of his food and still no luck? someone told me to try API Tetracycline?

but shouldnt he have died if he had Hex if hes been like this for two months? I cant tell if he eat at all.

 

[Mastiffman]

oh hey guys! i made a thread in the FH forum and no one seemed to reply much. My guy has been having hardly any poop and not eating for the past two months. He just looks really lazy and sits there in his corner. He moves a little when i turn off his light. I believed he had Hex as well and few weeks ago i tried 2 treatments of general cure and it didnt seem to do anything. I been adding Epsom salt and soaking some of his food and still no luck? someone told me to try API Tetracycline?

but shouldnt he have died if he had Hex if hes been like this for two months? I cant tell if he eat at all.

What kind of Water change routine do you have? Size of tank and filtration Equipment?

How old is it and do you see any type of exterrior abnomalities?

If he's not eating there won't be any feces. Did you change anything in the last few months? Equipment, Diet, Lighting, etc...

 

[RD.]

Instead of making making a cluster kuck out of this topic, perhaps it would be better to continue this discussion in NationsMostWanted original topic linked to below.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?523876-Not-eating-as-much


Thanks

 

[NationsMostWanted]

What kind of Water change routine do you have? Size of tank and filtration Equipment?

How old is it and do you see any type of exterrior abnomalities?

If he's not eating there won't be any feces. Did you change anything in the last few months? Equipment, Diet, Lighting, etc...

55 gallon tank he's probably about 1 year and half old. I don't notice any difference from outside. This started sometime in like January. I noticed in dec or so he wasn't eating much and never though anything of it.

Last big thing I did was a end of year 50% water change. Don't recall if it occurred after that. I'm stumped

Any help would be good in my original thread.

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[RD.]

And Andrew, to answer your question, that would be affirmative. I have heard of both of those compounds, and if you go back to post #25 in this discussion you will find a study that I linked to that involved metronidazole & ajoene.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22677132


Here's another study from a few years ago that did not include metronidazole.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21056027


These chemically synthesized derivatives of garlic (allicin and ajoene) only proved to inhibit growth of Spironucleus vortens, and only at very high concentrations far beyond what one will find on the market in garlic oil, fresh garlic, dry garlic, or garlic products sold in the aquatic industry.

In the latter study the researchers concluded:

All these concentrations are much higher than those reported to be required for the inhibition of most bacteria, protozoa and fungi previously investigated, indicating an unusual level of tolerance for allium-derived products in S. vortens. However, chemically synthesized derivatives of garlic constituents might prove a useful avenue for future research.

 

[Mastiffman]

Whaaaat? You should be doing a water change once every two weeks At Least!

So the last time that you did a water change was in late Dec 2012 or beginning of Jan 2013?

 

[RD.]

All you two are going to accomplish by this back & forth is make those after you scroll through all of this fluff that has nothing to do with the topic. HELLO.

I already provided a link to his original thread - post there.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?523876-Not-eating-as-much


Thanks.