@@ Trend of black ray pricing? @@

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what if the collector in the amazon try to dictate price by putting a quota on how many they will export / month. i know i would
 
iwiied;2599902; said:
what if the collector in the amazon try to dictate price by putting a quota on how many they will export / month. i know i would

The problem with this idea is that if they try and restrict collection/exportation, the other collectors will simply absorb this extra demand with increased fishing. :irked:
 
Why do people keep saying this... Im not into fish at all and I have talked to people I know that say us wholesalers are offering leos for 1000 range. If the wholesalers have access to them so does the general public... Go ask your local fish stores to inquire with their wholesalers.. Im sure if you leave a deposit they will order u a ray. a few vendors on mfk have them available. I recently saw a trio sell for 1500 each that means the wholesalers in the country have them as this person did not import them himself. Your local fish store will not order a 1000 dollar ray unless u ask them to and leave a deposit etc

stingray man;2599838; said:
unless you are a vendor or a breeder it is near impossible to get these rays.
 
RARE AFISHINADO;2600555; said:
Why do people keep saying this... Im not into fish at all and I have talked to people I know that say us wholesalers are offering leos for 1000 range. If the wholesalers have access to them so does the general public... Go ask your local fish stores to inquire with their wholesalers.. Im sure if you leave a deposit they will order u a ray. a few vendors on mfk have them available. I recently saw a trio sell for 1500 each that means the wholesalers in the country have them as this person did not import them himself. Your local fish store will not order a 1000 dollar ray unless u ask them to and leave a deposit etc
I think what stingray man meant was, you cant get them directly if you weren't a vendor or a breeder, you'd have to go through a load of stuff to be able to get one. If you're not into fish, why work with fish...
 
Not into fish anymore.....Anyone can get them directly if they are willing to go through the hassle of import/customs etc Vendors, Breeders, Hobbiest would all have the same hassles of getting them directly.....Look at Mike he is a breeder not an Importer.. I know he has imported a few times but its not like he does it all the time. He heard leos would be available soon and he got off his but coughed up cash and got some rays... anyone with a desire some brains and lil cash can do it. He didnt sit back and say o man these rays are impossible to get..

This statement is like a person sitting on their couch and not getting up to get a beer out of the fridge an saying ,.. man its impossible to get a beer out of the fridge unless ur willing to go through what it takes to get one.....

Im hoping you are horrible at interpreting others posts and this is not what he meant......
 
I THINK THESE PREDICT BLACK RAYS WILL BE UNDER 1K BY MARCH. IVE SEEN THE RECENT LIST THAT WERE FROM 08 QUOTA. 09 QUOTAS COMING SOON. I DONT CARE IF BLACK RAYS GET DOWN TO 600 BUCKS. THEY AINT GONNA BE FLYING OFF THE SHELVES LIKE PEOPLE THINK. NOT IN THIS ECONOMY. YES, THERE WILL BE SEVERAL HUNDRED SOLD AT FIRST. BUT ONCE THE MARKET FLOODS AND PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN GET ONE AT ANY TIME, WHOLESALERS WILL HAVE THEM SITTING IN THE WHAREHOUSE JUST LIKE THEY WERE A FEW YEARS AGO. WE AS AMERICANS ARE A PEOPLE THAT ALWAYS WANT WHAT IS HARD TO OBTAIN. ONCE THEY A DIME A DOZEN THE HYPE WILL BE OVER. FOR THOSE WHO INVESTED LOTS OF CASH IT MIGHT HURT A LITTLE. FOR THOSE THAT ARE TRUE RAY HEADS AND ARE TRUE TO BREEDING TOP QUALITY RAYS FOR THE SHEAR JOY OF IT, THEY WILL BE JUST FINE. ALL GOOD THINGS COME TO AN END. IT MIGHT NOT EVER BE AS CHEAP AS YEARS PAST. BUT THATS THE WAY THINGS WORK.. ITS ALL ABOUT SUPPLY AND DEMAND. ONCE THE SUPPLY EXCEEDS THE DEMAND U WILL GET YOUR BLACK RAYS AT A PRICE. THAT BEING SAID. CB BLACK RAYS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE OF A HIGHER QUALITY AND HEALTH, DUE TO SELECTIVE BREEDING. SO IF U WANT A COLD ASS BLACK RAY IN PERFECT HEALTH AND PARASITE FREE, SPEND THAT EXTRA CASH AND GET U A CB RAT FROM ONE OF THE REPUTIABLE BREEDERS. THEY WORTH EVERY BIT OF 1,500. JUST ASK AROUND. WILD CAUGHT RAYS AINT ALWAYS WHAT THEY CRACKED UP TO BE... U CANT COMPARE THE TWO.
 
We can all make assumptions all day long, All I know is that 3 years ago when I started breeding leopoldi pups were being sold for 500 dollars each from breeders in Europe, I never expected them to cost over $ 1500 US each for CB pups. I always figured $ 800 US was going to be the average price when things calmed down and breeders starting producing enough rays to meet demand. I am sure the price will stabilize.
 
RARE AFISHINADO;2604733; said:
Not into fish anymore.....Anyone can get them directly if they are willing to go through the hassle of import/customs etc Vendors, Breeders, Hobbiest would all have the same hassles of getting them directly.....Look at Mike he is a breeder not an Importer.. I know he has imported a few times but its not like he does it all the time. He heard leos would be available soon and he got off his but coughed up cash and got some rays... anyone with a desire some brains and lil cash can do it. He didnt sit back and say o man these rays are impossible to get..

This statement is like a person sitting on their couch and not getting up to get a beer out of the fridge an saying ,.. man its impossible to get a beer out of the fridge unless ur willing to go through what it takes to get one.....

Im hoping you are horrible at interpreting others posts and this is not what he meant......
Your example is all that great either though. It should be more like, a person sitting on their couch and not going to a freaking beer factory to get beer DIRECTLY unless you're willing to go look for one. To use your example would be like, someone not bothering to fish out a leo from their fish tank and saying its impossible to get. And plus not everyone knows direct importers like you, fish stores dont usually go around telling them who supplies their fish...
 
well than if you follow your logic its "virtually impossible" to get any rare fish unless your a vendor or a breeder....

all you have to do is have your local pet store ask their wholesaler to get one for you.
 
RARE AFISHINADO;2606942; said:
well than if you follow your logic its "virtually impossible" to get any rare fish unless your a vendor or a breeder....

all you have to do is have your local pet store ask their wholesaler to get one for you.
That wouldn't be getting them directly from the source would it? If we go by your logic, EVERYTHING is possible to get. So its also possible for everyone to get an enzo ferrari or maybe a breeding pair of asian aros right?
 
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