Wow thanks guys everyone has such pretty fish and thanks for the information on Skip the pyros are stunning but the more i look at them and knowing my self im a cichlid purist i prefer as true to the bloodline as possible. No offense to anybody holding hybrids some of them are gorgeous just in my mind there mutts, Im the same with dogs lol.and at my shop i only keep wc and f1s we have a few that arnt but thats our asstd tank to keep prices low on fish. So with that being said i think id prefer a wild caught group to pair and just hope one turns exceptionally yellow. Does anyone atm have any wc trimacs they can show? Behold King Bob Wild Rio naranjo