TURTLE THAT CAN GO IN MY 440 GAL TANK WITH MY AROS PBASS AND RED TAILED CATFISH

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turtleMONSTER;2138741; said:
i was thinking giant musk...but would probaly go after the aro...eventually...unless you left the lights on 24 hrs
That would leave both turt and fish crazy and wouldnt save the aro;)
 
Well, if your not planning on upgrading, I would say none and lose some of those fish lol!

If you are, again FRT is the only thing I personally feel could work. Good luck.
 
Most of the really nice turtles are hard to find and expensive. If you have another place to raise it a albino or regular chinese soft shell turtle might work. Every turtle is different. The other big issue is the redtail catfish. When mine got to be about 30 inches or so he decided turtle sounded pretty good to him and had a 4 by 6 inch map turtle half swallowed. Not good for either of them. It is never easy because fish and turtles do what fish and turtles do.

Good Luck. The FRT are very cool but hard to get.

Jack
 
Jackd;2139298; said:
Most of the really nice turtles are hard to find and expensive. If you have another place to raise it a albino or regular chinese soft shell turtle might work. Every turtle is different. The other big issue is the redtail catfish. When mine got to be about 30 inches or so he decided turtle sounded pretty good to him and had a 4 by 6 inch map turtle half swallowed. Not good for either of them. It is never easy because fish and turtles do what fish and turtles do.

Good Luck. The FRT are very cool but hard to get.

Jack
All so true.
 
i have a huge outdoor pond atleast 700 gallons and i heat it in the winter i havent got the tank yet but it will be a 480-500 gallons and will be pretty tall and the holes in the over flow boxes will be at least 3 inches deep so i can have the water pretty low but i will definitly have two aros a black aro and a silver aro three pbass and a red tailed catfish plus maybe a juruense catfish and the amazon river turtle probably the same size as the fish wich will be in between 9-11 inches when they go in the 500 gallon and if they get to big they can go in the pond
 
no turtle could be trusted,it is just a matter of time,it may be sooner or later ehehhehe well go ahead if you want to gamble your fishes ...anyway just crossing by the streets is like gambling yul never know when your gonna be hit by a ten wheeler truck heheheheh
 
mercury904;2145429; said:
no turtle could be trusted,it is just a matter of time,it may be sooner or later ehehhehe well go ahead if you want to gamble your fishes ...anyway just crossing by the streets is like gambling yul never know when your gonna be hit by a ten wheeler truck heheheheh
there is a black metal fence almost two feet tall around the perimater of the pond made to keep my other turtles that i sold in the pond and planter and to keep other animals out it is very tight and the only way anything could get out was if it was three inches wide and one inch tall and is very sturdy i dont want pesky sqiurels and rabbits getting in and the turtles cant escape the fence is all the way around the planter and stops dead at the wall of my house wich is the entire back of the planter i made shure there were no holes so no turtle could escape the other turtls were fighting so i sold them they were softshells
 
Any reason you can't do a matamata? I know one sex gets significantly bigger than the other, so I would do whichever that is. Matas don't have beaks, so they can't nip. They can only eat whole items that fit in their mouth, so as long as everything is bigger, it should be fine as long as the fish don't hurt the turtle.

The only issue I would worry about is depth. Matas shouldn't be forced to swim to shallower water to breathe, so they need a depth they can stretch their necks to. So I guess you would have to start with an adult, because a baby would most likely have to swim far too much. As far as I know, they don't mind deeper water as long as they can convienently walk along to bottom back to shallow water.

So is there some big issue I completely missed that's causing no one else to suggest matas?
 
no sliders/cooters/musks.
Theres a place with rtcs, pacu, and sliders and cooters together.
probibly 10 rtcs 40 pacu and like 40 turtles.
The rtcs every so often end up eating a turtle, and coughing up the shell.
 
loconorc;2167360; said:
Any reason you can't do a matamata? I know one sex gets significantly bigger than the other, so I would do whichever that is. Matas don't have beaks, so they can't nip. They can only eat whole items that fit in their mouth, so as long as everything is bigger, it should be fine as long as the fish don't hurt the turtle.

The only issue I would worry about is depth. Matas shouldn't be forced to swim to shallower water to breathe, so they need a depth they can stretch their necks to. So I guess you would have to start with an adult, because a baby would most likely have to swim far too much. As far as I know, they don't mind deeper water as long as they can convienently walk along to bottom back to shallow water.

So is there some big issue I completely missed that's causing no one else to suggest matas?
Matas dont deal well with both deep water and with big vigorus and active fish like he has. They are calm shallow water creatures and I assure you they will not do well in that pond. The fish will goble down every single bit of food before the mata even understends what is going on:grinno: Also the red tail catfish is a serious treat to this turt and this turt wont be capable of defending herself.
As for cudamaster, if you plan on ading any turt to that pond I must worn you of a very important mater. I assume that you understend that any turt needs place to get out of the water and to bask. Now you have this heated pond to wich you pretend on ading a turt to. Now to be sussesfull in this undever you must create some kind of green house all over the pond. Reason: on midle winter your turtle is swiming on warm water but is breading cold air:eek: That will inevetably endup in a very short therm in a letal respiratory desiase. So you must build some kind of greenhouse in wich the pond will be included, to conserve heat and moist, remenbar that all turts that we have seen are tropical climate animals with very litle cold resistance(but if the temps are keept on the aceptable range they are very hardy animals). With some toches here and there(say tropical plants, braches,etc) the result may endup being very pretty, your own peace of rainforest lake:D
 
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