Type of Asian Arowana?
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OK I see the difference I thought maybe a banjar red too but seeing them out of water is very noticable, but why not educate instead of laugh at someones opinion. This forum is really getting to become more of a site of critisizm(sp) than helping each other out. Maybe its time to move on to another forum where people are a bit more friendly
King-eL;4177858; said:
Erm.....talking about 'educated guesses' guys...........a Banjar Red is not a Green.
A Banjar Red is a hybrid between S. macrocephalus (YellowTail Silver/Kuning Banjar) and S. legendrei (Super Red)
You cant id most Asian Arowanas just on colour. You need fin ray counts and scale counts, and to know which varieties are hybrids and which are pure species.
If anybody needs to know this info they can download the free pdf describing the 4 Asian species that I linked in my 1st reply.
Not trying to put anyone down here or pretend I'm more knowledgeable or anything like that. It's just that I have read the pdf several times trying to id Asians, and I used it to try to id this one aswell. With the information available, it's a bit strange that anyone could 'guess' the id without using it.
blackghostuk;4178565; said:Erm.....talking about 'educated guesses' guys...........a Banjar Red is not a Green.
A Banjar Red is a hybrid between S. macrocephalus (YellowTail Silver/Kuning Banjar) and S. legendrei (Super Red)
You cant id most Asian Arowanas just on colour. You need fin ray counts and scale counts, and to know which varieties are hybrids and which are pure species.
If anybody needs to know this info they can download the free pdf describing the 4 Asian species that I linked in my 1st reply.
Not trying to put anyone down here or pretend I'm more knowledgeable or anything like that. It's just that I have read the pdf several times trying to id Asians, and I used it to try to id this one aswell. With the information available, it's a bit strange that anyone could 'guess' the id without using it.
Well the thing is right now wild caught aros are illigal to obtain and most asian aros in farms are not pure bloodline so counting scales and ray counts it's not gonna work as genetics have been altered. Unless the aro still have a pure bloodline.
blackghostuk;4178565; said:Erm.....talking about 'educated guesses' guys...........a Banjar Red is not a Green.
A Banjar Red is a hybrid between S. macrocephalus (YellowTail Silver/Kuning Banjar) and S. legendrei (Super Red)
You cant id most Asian Arowanas just on colour. You need fin ray counts and scale counts, and to know which varieties are hybrids and which are pure species.
If anybody needs to know this info they can download the free pdf describing the 4 Asian species that I linked in my 1st reply.
Not trying to put anyone down here or pretend I'm more knowledgeable or anything like that. It's just that I have read the pdf several times trying to id Asians, and I used it to try to id this one aswell. With the information available, it's a bit strange that anyone could 'guess' the id without using it.
Banjar red are not necessarily a hybrid. Yellow tails are often sold as banjar reds and are naturually occuring fish. I've heard from some sources that they are the same fish from different locales (like you said in your post -S. macrocephalus = YellowTail Silver/Kuning Banjar = yellow tail or banjar red).
1.5 reds(cross between red and whatever) use banjar red as a sales name.
The deciding factor for me was that at this size (14") a RTG would be... well to put it simply... GOLD. They develope color very early. Another factor for me is the only asians I have seen that sport a pattern on the scales are greens, banjars/yellow tails. Further more, the white trim on the cadual fin is a dead give away.
In any case, a nice green aro. Wish I lived in canada...
blackghostuk;4178565; said:Erm.....talking about 'educated guesses' guys...........a Banjar Red is not a Green.
A Banjar Red is a hybrid between S. macrocephalus (YellowTail Silver/Kuning Banjar) and S. legendrei (Super Red)
You cant id most Asian Arowanas just on colour. You need fin ray counts and scale counts, and to know which varieties are hybrids and which are pure species.
If anybody needs to know this info they can download the free pdf describing the 4 Asian species that I linked in my 1st reply.
Not trying to put anyone down here or pretend I'm more knowledgeable or anything like that. It's just that I have read the pdf several times trying to id Asians, and I used it to try to id this one aswell. With the information available, it's a bit strange that anyone could 'guess' the id without using it.
I always thought a Banjar red was a cross between a Green and a RTG...
The original posterd pic is a green. Green arowana can come in all different shapes and colours. I have seen some very nice green arowana from malaysia and thailand with actual natural darker green paterns and some with dark to light limey base colour and snake skin like scales. I have seen yellowish tale greens, blue tale greens, purplish tale greens and greenish colour tale greens.
About the banjar red being a green and red cross. When I lived in Singapore, I was told by the farms that that it is a cross between the two. But after speaking to other enthusuiasts and I also believe that there is a high probablity that such a base strain also exhists in the wild.
About the banjar red being a green and red cross. When I lived in Singapore, I was told by the farms that that it is a cross between the two. But after speaking to other enthusuiasts and I also believe that there is a high probablity that such a base strain also exhists in the wild.
