The high courts disagree with you. It's been established that police have NO duty to protect an individual. They merely provide a service at large.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
UC Davis Pepper Spray?
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The high courts disagree with you. It's been established that police have NO duty to protect an individual. They merely provide a service at large.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
Officers were never surrounded. The protesters simply sat arms linked blocking a sidewalk. Watch the video.
that's basically my thoughts. is there huge holes in my thought process? yes i'll admit that but i feel lil sympathy for a bunch of students getting a lil pepper spray after seeing what has happen to alot of other people in this country. i haven't even begun to mention race yet
Wow man. That is ducked(typo on purpose) up. Especially since the cops bailed out the murderous cop.
Seeing as to how pro-hippy the city of Davis is, I'm sure they had some type of local ordinance stating it's illegal to block a public sidewalk or walkway, who knows. Point is they were blocking a walkway, police asked them to move, they refused, so they got sprayed. I'm not sure how else police should have handled civil disobedience.
At what point do you, as an individual, push back against a cop who is out of line and violating your rights?
Yup, it's even worse when you watch the video. Poor guy wasn't even resisting. He kept asking them to stop, but the beating and tazing continued until this was all that was left of him:
*graphic warning*
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/Kelly-Thomas-Police-Beating.jpg
I ask the same question to myself all the time, and even to a few buddies of mine who are in law enforcement. The answer is always the same. Don't do stupid crap to put yourself in that situation and you'll never have to worry about it. It's not the right answer, I agree, but what else can you do?
But I don't think protesting is doing stupid crap. I know protesters are allowed to gather on the side walk at our school legally. Its annoying, and smelly, bathe hippies!, and creepy when the religious/antiabortion people do it, but its their right to express themselves. When the cops start dishing out violence like that no good comes of it for anyone. The cops look bad and receive the anger of the people, and the protesters themselves get hurt and further radicalized. Why can't the cops use their words to pull out an old preschool term? "Hey guys you can protest here if you want but, we have students that need to use the sidewalk to get through. Some of them might not be able to get around your protest like those with mobility issues? Can you protest on either side of the side walk to allow people to pass? That way more people get to see and hear your message?" I'm sure things didn't go down that way. The people were ordered to leave which put them on the defensive. If they were reasoned with and explained to why and how they were being inconsiderate and then they still refused to leave then arrest them but there is no call there to use force. The police need to think these things through more and quit doling out force as the chief problem solving device.
don't alot of cities give out permits for these peaceful protests that are associated with the occupy wall street movement?
i've heard these students were protesting an 81% increase in tuition next year but i'm not sure how disrupting their fellow student's route to class was going to help solve their problem.
i've heard these students were protesting an 81% increase in tuition next year but i'm not sure how disrupting their fellow student's route to class was going to help solve their problem.
