Update on pier and marquette

[troppond]

Please don't flame me again...
And don't flame me for saying that...
or that

But one salmon lives under the rocks and appears to live solely on algae and microbes, the other, my personal favorite, is almost hand-fed and is out and holding 95 percent of the time. He loves to hit bugs half his size on the surface and that i squish into a ball and make sink. I couldn't name how he attacks but I finally got it. Exactly like a snake head. Exactly. The other I barely see but when I do he attacks the same way. These fish are just coldwater, big snakeheads in demeanor and aggressiveness. They also have the teeth, for those of you who go fishing, you know what i mean. You CAN keep these fish, they really aren't hard. A coho or sockeye salmon only gets around 8 or 9 pounds. From my experience these guys can be kept at room temperature if they are acclimated to it as one inchers or fingerlings. Please give these little cold water snakeheadsna chance

 

[fisher12889]

You've had these fish for what, two weeks? Maybe three? That's not nearly long enough to claim that they can live in room temp water, or that they arent hard to keep...

 

[troppond]

well...... i came to the pond right after writing that to find a cardinal bathing in the stream, not the salmon pocket thank god, put pier is gone, he might be hiding extremely deep in the rocks, but most likely the cardinal ate him, it's horrible but at least the more active and my favorite is alive, marquette...

 

[Bridger]

Was it a cardinal or an osprey? I don't think it would be physically possible for a cardinal to catch and eat them. I hope pier is okay. It would be pretty cool if they both make it.

 

[troppond]

Thanks bridger, and they're fry, haha a cardinal carrying ofd a king salmon, that would be sight lol, and found him, he jumped the rocks and was in another shallow pool that luckily i rocked in with pea gravel

 

[rjssniper]

You've had these fish for what, two weeks? Maybe three? That's not nearly long enough to claim that they can live in room temp water, or that they arent hard to keep...

shouldnt this statement be followed with some sort of educational advice or wisdom. forgive me i openly admit ive only been at native fish keeping for about 10 months. ive made some mistakes. but shouldnt we be trying to support a fellow hobbiest? please understand im trying to be polite in saying this and not a jerk.

 

[fisher12889]

shouldnt this statement be followed with some sort of educational advice or wisdom. forgive me i openly admit ive only been at native fish keeping for about 10 months. ive made some mistakes. but shouldnt we be trying to support a fellow hobbiest? please understand im trying to be polite in saying this and not a jerk.

I just didn't like how he was trying to make it sound like these are "easy" fish to keep, just because they've survived for a little bit in his setup. Trout and salmon are demanding species requiring cold, clean water. He says they can be kept in roomp temp water if acclimated when young. Well in the wild, yes they may experience temps of over 65-70 but it is for a short time of the year. We'll see how long they last...

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited to see someone try a species that is very rarely kept. I just think if your going to keep a coldwater fish, you should have a coldwater setup, not an outdoor pond with no temperature control.

I also feel that aquiring these fish was not exactly legal, since they are too small to have been taken on hook and line (show me where its legal to catch gamefish with some other method). Besides that, there are size limit restrictions on that river http://www.flyfishingconnection.com/regulations/mi/mi_regspere.html

 

[troutking]

I just didn't like how he was trying to make it sound like these are "easy" fish to keep, just because they've survived for a little bit in his setup. Trout and salmon are demanding species requiring cold, clean water. He says they can be kept in roomp temp water if acclimated when young. Well in the wild, yes they may experience temps of over 65-70 but it is for a short time of the year. We'll see how long they last...

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited to see someone try a species that is very rarely kept. I just think if your going to keep a coldwater fish, you should have a coldwater setup, not an outdoor pond with no temperature control.

I also feel that aquiring these fish was not exactly legal, since they are too small to have been taken on hook and line (show me where its legal to catch gamefish with some other method). Besides that, there are size limit restrictions on that river http://www.flyfishingconnection.com/regulations/mi/mi_regspere.html

who cares, its his problem lol

 

[fisher12889]

who cares, its his problem lol

Your right, it is his problem. However posting your illegal activities on here sets a bad example for this forum.

 

[Saterus]

^^ I'd have to agree, it irks me to see any sort of illegal activity posted here as much as it does when someone tells me in person "It's okay, when he outgrows his tank I'll just throw him in the river, no one will know."
Not cool, just not cool.