Updated pics on my Syn, and fene(I think)

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metalslug

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I think one is a female fenestratus and one a Syn. Let me know what you think.
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The fish in photos 1,2, and 4 is a bifa.

The fish in photo three is kind of iffy. It shows traits of fenestratus as well as maculicauda (the blue gill plate and black "belt"). It could be an unusual fenestratus or a hybrid.
 
I see it now, same fish in 1, 2 & 4. The color and lighting looks different in the pictures as in pics 1&2 the fish looks tan based with red and gold - like a bifa. In pic 4 the fish looks gray based with red and blue - like a fene.
I can't see pic #2.
Pic 3 look like a fene but after reading M_M's post I can make out the BB traits. Vieja/Paratheraps hybrids are not uncommmon, just so you know. They're nice fish though!
 
I think the shape of 1,2,4 fish is a bit different from a bifas'. Also the black spotting on the side connects all the way to the lateral line from the looks of it. I'll attach a shot of mine for comparison's sake.

First pic is when it was newly introduced, second is about 2 weeks later with the lateral line gone after it has totally settled in . You can see that the black spotting isn't that intense that it'll go all the way down to the lateral. Just my two cents.

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Yeah, I think the 1st pic fish is a syn because the redparts are not freckled but rather smooth, and the black is a mass of ot with some blues and yellows and oranges. The other fish in questions has a darker red head deeper blues no orage but rather reds, a straight line kinda like your bifas. Thats why I say and I believe its a female its a fenestratus blue. But after looking closely I would have to say its probably a Fene/Malcauda cross. Because this fish has no yellows or oranges like the pure fene.
 
I guarantee the first fish is not a synspilum. On a syn the black is mostly at or below the black lateral bar. Bifa have the black at or above the black lateral bar.

My old female synspilum.
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You can even Google this and see the difference, though there are a lot of misidentified ones on Google as well.
 
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