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Something that I haven't seen mentioned in this thread is the issue of circulation. In a larger system you may end up with a dead spot that will test differently that where you're collecting your samples. As I recall, Monster Minis had this problem in her pond a couple years ago.

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A good example of detective thinking and due diligence.

Also, don't collect near the filter putout or in the stream produced by it. Always test the worst spot, as far away from the filtered water coming in as possible (and reasonable of course; you don't want to dive into the pond to get a test tube filled :)). If it reads zero, everything else is zero.

I think the collection point is important in general practices and can be in this case too. If fish are kept long term in just slightly poor water, they will eventually succumb to a disease. Some sooner than others. And in this way, this point may be applicable to your situation. But again, only you can figure out the source of stress.

BTW, forget about the sun (burn). It almost never ever happens to fish.
 
Thanks for the heads up guys.. So tragic. I think it was bacterial. I only have one paroon left:( it took my kelberi, rtgg afrowa and both the giraffes.. Tragic.

I was VERY lucky to save my ripsaw and dourada.. It took out individual fishes with almost the same symptoms which ranged from 'burns' 'rots' and cloudy eyes...

Had tonrestart almost everything and costed my a leg and an arm just from the amount of quickstart and stress coat and extra holding tubs.

I rules out ammonia because the others in the communities did not show any symptoms at the slightest bit







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Sorry to hear but this is sadly a normal part of a hobby where one keeps live creatures.

Things like these don't happen for no reason. Usually it's one of the two:

-- either a new fish, new plant, live food (a wildlife visitor of land or air if talking about an outside pond) introduced a pathogen

-- or the fishes' immune system has been significantly compromised / suppressed by some kind of constant, long term, low level stress - toxins NH3, NO2, NO3, light, bullying or predation attempts, low oxygen (too little agitation, too warm water, too much algae and plants rob water of oxygen badly at night time), contaminants like heavy metals, lubricants, detergents, cosmetics/perfumes, oils, grease, cleaners, sprays, wrong water hardness, salinity, pH, temp, large swings in water parameters, left-over tap water disinfectants, etc.

Even if you cannot pin point the reason now, investigating this thoroughly now will pay rich dividends in the future when things go astray again. And they will. They always do.
 
thebiggerthebetter said:
Sorry to hear but this is sadly a normal part of a hobby where one keeps live creatures.

Things like these don't happen for no reason. Usually it's one of the two:

-- either a new fish, new plant, live food (a wildlife visitor of land or air if talking about an outside pond) introduced a pathogen

-- or the fishes' immune system has been significantly compromised / suppressed by some kind of constant, long term, low level stress - toxins NH3, NO2, NO3, light, bullying or predation attempts, low oxygen (too little agitation, too warm water, too much algae and plants rob water of oxygen badly at night time), contaminants like heavy metals, lubricants, detergents, cosmetics/perfumes, oils, grease, cleaners, sprays, wrong water hardness, salinity, pH, temp, large swings in water parameters, left-over tap water disinfectants, etc.

Even if you cannot pin point the reason now, investigating this thoroughly now will pay rich dividends in the future when things go astray again. And they will. They always do.
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I agree man. Someone once told me, if you dont want a pet that dies, take care of a rock:))

Looking back, i introduced a big cichla monoc late last year. It was the first one to die of the same symptoms. I initially thought it was only fin rot and cloudy eye that i usually cure in no time in a clean quarantine. It died.

It could be that it carried a parasite which transferred to the others. Also,
When i cleaned the pond, i saw that mosquito larvae was thriving in a portion of my filtration system. I believe they could carry disease as well. I placed powerheads on every compartment of my filtration to aviod mosquitos from laying eggs on em and better aerate my medias.




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It's hard to mistake that kind of bacterial infection. One of my tanks had it some years back. Very terrible and fast to kill the fish. Really fast. Good luck.
 
Do you have a reference for the mosquito larvae claim? I'd not expect this at all. They are ubiquitous and a favorite food of ~ all young /small fish.

Intuitively and based on the info and pics given, I agree with Zeke. I'd guess bacterial or viral and not parasitic.
 
thebiggerthebetter said:
Do you have a reference for the mosquito larvae claim? I'd not expect this at all. They are ubiquitous and a favorite food of ~ all young /small fish.

Intuitively and based on the info and pics given, I agree with Zeke. I'd guess bacterial or viral and not parasitic.
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I mean im not sure with the mosquito but yeah i agree with u and zeke that its probably viral/bacterial:( they died within a few days

Bro zeke what caused these?




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