uv sterilizer

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I have several Turbo Twist UV lights and none of them have leaked, a couple of them have been in use for several years... I've also talked with a lot of UV users and have never heard of any of them having problems with Turbo Twists leaking...

I've seen and read about Aqua UV Units... but having never used one personally I have nothing to say for or against them... All I'll say is I've done a lot of UV research and have no reason to discourage using one...

Based on my experience with them... 1W per 10 gal is enough, therefore I would suggest a 13.5W or larger UV for your 135 Gal... I have a Danner 20W on my 125 gal... Thee is nothing wrong with a little overkill, but at some point overkill becomes excessive. I'll let you decide if 36 W is excessive overkill, as the only disadvantage will be the cost of bulb replacement and the very slight increase in electrical use.

The "max flow rates" listed on UV units is regarding the max flow the housing can handle before leaking... this rating has absolutely nothing to do with efficient performance.

Mos90... You stated you called Aqua and they recommended 10~20 for a sterilizer... 10~20 what (gph or gpm?)... and to achieve what (removing green water, killing bacteria, clarifying water, killing parasites, etc?)

As with all aquarium products, I encourage people to trust experienced user recommendations far above manufacturer recommendations. Simply put, users have nothing to gain from people following their suggestions, manufacturers very often have ulterior motives... Just like "up to XXX gallon tank" manufacturer recommendations on filters, I find manufacturer's ratings on UV lights inaccurate...

Aquaventions… As for your set up… I suggest you push approx 10 gph per W through your UV light… So 360 gph through a 36 W unit. I suggest you push the cleanest water you practically can through the UV unit…

Eheim confuses me with their rating systems. I never know if what I am reading is the max flow rate of the pump (like most brands use), their suggested actual flow rate (which is typically exaggerated) or some other number. In a quick search I found many different gph ratings for the Eheim 2028 ranging from 280 gph to 189 gph and I’m not willing to speculate as to which is which, nor do I know if any of them are actually true… Therefore I will not speculate to give you “the best” suggested arrangement…
 
in a reef tank with a uv sterilizer wont a refugium used for food be pointless?
 
This is a freshwater folder and the Original Poster never mentioned saltwater usage... so I've never considered any points about being used in saltwater...

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean by "a refugium used for food"...

If you mean shrimp or copepods multiplying in the refugium and being transferred into the aquarium via a pump w/ UV inline... then yes the shrimp/copepods will be killed by the UV light, if the dwell time is long enough... With these being larger organisms, I would expect them to be able to handle longer exposure times…
 
nc_nutcase;3343083; said:
Aquaventions… As for your set up… I suggest you push approx 10 gph per W through your UV light… So 360 gph through a 36 W unit. I suggest you push the cleanest water you practically can through the UV unit…

Eheim confuses me with their rating systems. I never know if what I am reading is the max flow rate of the pump (like most brands use), their suggested actual flow rate (which is typically exaggerated) or some other number. In a quick search I found many different gph ratings for the Eheim 2028 ranging from 280 gph to 189 gph and I’m not willing to speculate as to which is which, nor do I know if any of them are actually true… Therefore I will not speculate to give you “the best” suggested arrangement…

I understood the 2028 had a rating of 192 gph. I believe the 192 rating is based on the canister loaded with their media while clean water flows through it. Practically I would estimate between 125 and 150 gph as it filters an aquarium.
 
OOps... I thought I was still talking to JDC, the original Poster, who has a 135 gal...

So if the highest rating I found for the Eheim 2028 (280 gph) is the pumps output... Then I would expect a real life estimated flow rate of 140~170 gph...

The micron filters you are suggesting using will decrease the flow rate of the filter they are on by a fair bit... T'in gtwo outlets together will also further slow them down... the UV will slow it down a bit but not much...

So using the high number (170) and plumbing both filters together... this is still below 360 gph (what I recommend for a 36W unit) before considering additional restrictions...

So all in all... I think you would be in good shape to connect both Eheim 2028's via a T and push the combined flow through a UV light...

I'd have to learn a lot more about the micron filters you are considering using before I could make any solid recommendation there... but in general, it makes sense to push water through 5 micron media, then through 3, then through 1... as opposed to pushing water through a series of the same sized media...

PS 1 micron is OMG tiny... I think that level of filtration may be overkill...
 
Not sure what you are killing, but I bought a 36w turbo twist for my 125 and have it plumbed to my Eheim 2217 and am quite happy with it.
 
Here is a description of the three micron filter:
http://sdiv.thomasnet.com/viewitems...ed-polypropylene-filter-cartridges?&forward=1

Sethco Model #902P20P3VC filters, 2-1/2" OD x 1" ID x 20" long

If I go with the three micron filter I will skip the five micron and one micron filters.

My flow path would then be a 1" stainless steel 76 micron RUSCO spin down filter (http://www.thesolar.biz/rusco_price_list.htm), a 1" 30 micron RUSCO spin down filter, a three micron reusable 20" filter, two tee'd Eheim 2028's, a 20" refillable carbon filter as needed, a reusable three micron 20" filter, and the 48" long 36 watt UV before returning to the tank.
 
sorry if i was not clear. i meant 10-20 gph per watt. 10 being better for parasites, while 20 for bacteria. so i try to stay in the middle of that. 15ish. but i think and correct me if im wrong, at 10 gph per watt it should take care of everything, algea,bacteria, parasites.so for my setup 135 gal set to flow at 250gph with a 15w uv id be at 15 gph per watt.

im not saying anything bad about the turbo twist. just heard a few bad stories. im sure lots of people have had no porblems. personally i never used 1.

my 2080 is rated for 450 gph and flows about 400 at max.

i guess it all depends on what you plan to use your uv for and how many gph you plan to push threw it. then you can pick the right wattage.
 
aquaventions;3343485; said:

I'm repeating this message because the original is difficult to read.

Here is a description of the three micron filter:
http://sdiv.thomasnet.com/viewitems/...ges?&forward=1

Sethco Model #902P20P3VC filters, 2-1/2" OD x 1" ID x 20" long

If I go with the three micron filter I will skip the five micron and one micron filters.

My flow path would then be a 1" stainless steel 76 micron RUSCO spin down filter (http://www.thesolar.biz/rusco_price_list.htm), a 1" 30 micron RUSCO spin down filter, a three micron reusable 20" filter, two tee'd Eheim 2028's, a 20" refillable carbon filter as needed, a reusable three micron 20" filter, and the 48" long 36 watt UV before returning to the tank.
 
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