UV sterilizers?

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Put it all together wizzin and you got your answer :D



RadleyMiller;653673; said:
Right on stotty. Actually UVs cause the water quality to degrade faster because it kills stuff and then it breaks down in the tank. UV + Water Changes = a healthy tank.


Water quality will increase due to the killing of the opaque algae and the removal of same by good filtration and the fact that it hopefully is not growing back as fast.

Change formula to read UV+Good filter+W/C's = A healthy tank.

Dr Joe

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thanks guys. I'm trying to research to find the best one. It makes sense not to use it during cycle. That's sort of what I was thinking about when I posted this. You want the bacteria to colonize freely without any road blocks.

Anybody recommend a good one? I was looking at the tetra UV2. Or the Laguna
 
I think its a claifier not a sterilizer see:

TetraPond GreenFree UV Clarifiers are the permanent solution to green water. Green water is suspended algae. When pond water enters the UVC bulb, the UV light destroys the algae, and then the dead algae is removed by filtration. GreenFree UV Clarifiers provide crystal clear viewing pleasure by clarifying heavy algae blooms in less than five days, and preventing recurrence. The UV Clarifier delivers full power from one bulb for one year with the Philips UVC bulb; that means it reduces maintenance for a beautiful pond. The GreenFree UV Clarifier complements the water garden with a shape that is compact and durable, yet attractive.



stotty;654274; said:
You have to be carfull there some pond units are uv clarifier, not Uv sterilizer UV-Clarifiers are used to kill algae along with some disease organisms. The water flows through UV-Clarifiers faster than the UV-Sterilizers. UV-Sterilizers kill 99% of floating algae as well as other living organisms. Clarifiers work better for algae problems.
 
call aquatic eco.....free advice they deal with larger systems and have uv units that will handle this size tank.


1-877 Fish-Stuf (347-4788) and someone will be ready to help you.
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wizzin;654466; said:
thanks guys. I'm trying to research to find the best one. It makes sense not to use it during cycle. That's sort of what I was thinking about when I posted this. You want the bacteria to colonize freely without any road blocks.

Anybody recommend a good one? I was looking at the tetra UV2. Or the Laguna
 
Dr Joe;654353; said:
Put it all together wizzin and you got your answer :D



RadleyMiller;653673; said:
Right on stotty. Actually UVs cause the water quality to degrade faster because it kills stuff and then it breaks down in the tank. UV + Water Changes = a healthy tank.


Water quality will increase due to the killing of the opaque algae and the removal of same by good filtration and the fact that it hopefully is not growing back as fast.

Change formula to read UV+Good filter+W/C's = A healthy tank.

Dr Joe

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But DrJoe, if we are killing all of this stuff it is breaking down and eventually becoming more nitrates. In a system without UV floating algae and algae on the glass and ornaments compete for food and generally stay unnoticable. When you add a UV, the surfcace film does not have to compete with floating algae and in theory would grow faster. Couple that with the "I don't have to do as many water changes because the UV will take care of the algae" and you have a recipe for disaster. I am not knocking UVs at all, they are great, but don't forget you still have to do water changes. :)
 
i use this product and it works great on me. http://www.aquaultraviolet.com

i use a 25w for my 180 gal tank. and honestly to say, i have no outbreak of any sort of disease after the uv was installed. i turned the uv off when for the first 3 weeks of cycling and turned it on after. since then i always had it on.:D i love the wipper feature of it.:D
 
johnptc;654496; said:
call aquatic eco.....free advice they deal with larger systems and have uv units that will handle this size tank.


1-877 Fish-Stuf (347-4788) and someone will be ready to help you.
Mon-Thu 8am - 7pm
Fri 8am - 5pm
Sat 10am - 2pm

cool. I will. Thanks!

question. did you run your tank without the uv at all or was it running from the begining? Was it part of the design, or an afterthought? Just wonder how helpful they really are.
 
wizzin;654598; said:
cool. I will. Thanks!

question. did you run your tank without the uv at all or was it running from the begining? Was it part of the design, or an afterthought? Just wonder how helpful they really are.

Just had a good talk with one of their techs. Actually, after talking with him and reading this article, I'm pretty sure I'm not adding one. The chart at the bottom is the best part. Basically what it says is that there isn't really a UV unit out there that can kill all of the micro critters that could infect your tank. Basically, it's good for aglea and some bacteria. Those shouldn't be a problem if water chemistry is maintained and fish are quarenteened prior to introduction to the system.

The unit we looked at would run about $900 and still not really do much more than kill most algea and most bacteria. Even commercial units can't kill everything, and can't control bad outbreaks. Best practice is to do everything possible to prevent problems in the first place.

I think I'll shelf the UV idea for now.

OOPS. this article: http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/popup.techTalkDetail/ttid/80
 
RadleyMiller;654544; said:
Dr Joe;654353; said:
Put it all together wizzin and you got your answer :D





But DrJoe, if we are killing all of this stuff it is breaking down and eventually becoming more nitrates This is where proper filtration comes in so that there isn't time for it to break down. In a system without UV floating algae and algae on the glass and ornaments compete for food and generally stay unnoticable UNNOTICABLE?. When you add a UV, the surfcace film does not have to compete with floating algae and in theory would grow faster This is where proper maintenance comes in, when you are trying to get rid of algae you clean everything including the glass and run the UV to kill all that is now floating. Couple that with the "I don't have to do as many water changes because the UV will take care of the algae" and you have a recipe for disaster When did someone say to stop doing proper tank maintenance, this is what possibly started it in the first place. I am not knocking UVs at all, they are great, but don't forget you still have to do water changes Check my other post I did agree to proper water changes. :)

Hope this clears it up.

wizzin keep us posted on your outcome.

Good luck,

Dr Joe

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