ba mate. they are all un happy now though, aro has taken charge of the tank, ba just skalks about looking mis, larger jag seems ok, both smaller jag and smaller butti arnt too happy and the midas pair and suncat are happy as ever... lost my big orange midas, suspected wyckii kill, was fine after a water change then floating on his side just breathing then died 15min later, suspected internal damage as no external signs! gonna cut back on the stock soon and prob leave the my white female and blaze and maybe the big jag cichlid wise, the others will stay.