Vieja What??

[ShadowStryder]

Bifa. Here is a photo of each.

First is a Bifa, Second a Hartwegi. Much more blue in a Hartwegi.

 

[labiatus55]

probably hybrid, lots around, vieja/paratheraps easily cross

 

[BC in SK]

I think its bifasciatus. As far as the blue, it all depends on the regional variant and the particular fish. I've seen many pictures of bifas with a lot of blue; for example the picture of Vieja bifasciatus "Rio-Madrigal" in south american cichlids III.

Markings, snout and coloration, IMO, fit bifas.

 

[StripeGirl]

bifasciatus and a very nice one.

 

[BlueKiller82]

Lots of opinions. Thanks guys, as I see the pics posted by shadowstryder id def say its more towards the bifasciatus.

 

[Aquamojo]

I would tend to say Hartwegi as well. Bifasciatum don't usually have that blue in the face and operculum. The only Bifasciatum I've ever seen with that spot/color pattern are from Rio Chacamax in Mexico. That aside...they don't have the blue.

 

[cichlidinsomniac]

it could also be a female fenestratus, looks deeper bodied than any hartwegi ive seen

 

[ewurm]

I would say that could be a Hartwegi, a bifasciatus, or a hybrid. Many Vieja species look alike.