Want a new toy, what would you pick?

[jcardona1]

Looking to buy a new toy, hopefully sometime in the near future. Looking to build a pretty serious off road rig, although I probably won't be doing hardcore rock crawling and bashing it against boulders.

I think right now I'm between a 97-06 Jeep Wrangler TJ or a 90-97 FJ80 Toyota Land Cruiser. Haven't really looked at other options since I want a vehicle that has solid axles up front and everything is IFS these days.

Either way, I'd like to run a 4-6" lift with 37" tires, full armor, racks, winch, etc. Maybe even make it into an expedition-type rig. Here's my comparison list:

Land Cruiser
- Older, so it would have a ton of miles, harder to find one in good shape
- Parts are harder to find and more expensive, limited suspension options
- Built like a tank, more room to carry stuff
- It's a TOYOTA, and the 80-series Land Cruisers are known for being bullet-proof
- Full time 4WD
- Somewhat limited articulation up front when compared to a Jeep

Jeep
- Newer, less miles, better condition. More expensive up front
- Huge aftermarket, cheaper parts, and tons of suspension options
- Tiny back seats, virtually no room to carry anything for longer trips
- Questionable reputation and reliability
- Shorter wheelbase can cause for some scary situation on steep uphill/downhill climbs
- Crazy front/rear articulation

And now some cool pics:

FJ80
















TJ:





I know it's not a TJ, but it's just too damn cool!

 

[jcardona1]

Dammit. This was supposed to have a poll. I can't go back and add one?

 

[Garrett.turbo]

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[krichardson]

Rubicon.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

.Jeep no question

 

[jcardona1]

Any specific reasons?

 

[Garrett.turbo]

uhm Jeeps are awesome, Toyotas suck, My friend and I have went through everything in his jeep and its stock with just a lift with some mudders and never had a prob with anything

 

[Garrett.turbo]

no offense to anyone with a toyota just saying jeeps are known for being made for rough terrain its in their genes

 

[jcardona1]

uhm Jeeps are awesome, Toyotas suck, My friend and I have went through everything in his jeep and its stock with just a lift with some mudders and never had a prob with anything

Well...Land Cruisers are used all over the world in some of the toughest terrains, and for good reason. There's really no basis to say they "suck". I like Jeeps too, which is why I can't decide. Jeeps however are more of a fun weekend toy. When it comes to a serious expedition vehicle that can go for hundreds of miles, Land Cruiser is the clear winner.

 

[zoohouse]

I would go with the FJ. But then again I am into fullsize rigs. I have a '73 k5 (i had 2 but just downsized) and a '95 Gmc 2500. I use to have a '91 toyota 4runner and miss offroading it. Jeep have their pros but I am only 6'1 and have yet to be in a jeep that felt comfortable. Toyotas suck up alot of gas but look way more unique when fixed up. Jeeps are for highschool boys.