Water not clear-Foggy

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Don't add anything to the tank without some objective evidence telling you that you need it. If you don't have nitrite, and you have nothing to measure ammonia, then you have no evidence to say that your beneficial/nitrifying bacteria need "Quick Start".

You have 5 large Sev's, and then 10 other medium fish. You have what sounds to me like a pretty heavily stocked tank. You should get a liquid ammonia test. Also, SeaChem makes a strip that goes inside the tank. If it measures ammonia it changes color--tells you if an ammonia spike has occurred. Get that, too--they're cheap. With lots of fish, you may not realize you're having ammonia spikes after feeding.

In the meantime...do nothing. Don't change anything, don't clean things, nothing. Start figuring out if you're gonna get a new tank, or re-home some fish. Measure ammonia/nitrite/nitrate/pH and post it here. That's it.
 
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This sounds like a typical bacterial or algal bloom.
And the idea that any commercial filter has the ability to filter out bacteria is impossible.
Most bacteria are in the 0.02-0.08 um (micron) range.
Most of the finest mesh filter socks only filter down to in the 50-100 micron range size at best.
And the amount of floccing agent you would need to use to cause that kind of coagulation of those minute size particles would not be healthy for fish.
It sometimes takes a month or more for a bacterial bloom to settle, and happens in new and old tanks. It happens in nature seasonally.
 
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duanes said:
This sounds like a typical bacterial or algal bloom.
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I totally agree. But......we don't have an ammonia reading. If he comes back and says he's reading .50 ppm Ammonia, or he puts a seachem "Ammonia Alert" and it reads "ALARM" or "TOXIC", then all this cloudiness could be a problem with his bio-filtration. Could be overstocked for the amount of bacteria living in his filters.

which goes back to Frank's comment and link to the sticky. OP didn't really help us to help him. We're trying to guess, and look into a crystal ball, and going by what it sounds like.
 
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ragin_cajun said:
I totally agree. But......we don't have an ammonia reading. If he comes back and says he's reading .50 ppm Ammonia, or he puts a seachem "Ammonia Alert" and it reads "ALARM" or "TOXIC", then all this cloudiness could be a problem with his bio-filtration. Could be overstocked for the amount of bacteria living in his filters.

which goes back to Frank's comment and link to the sticky. OP didn't really help us to help him. We're trying to guess, and look into a crystal ball, and going by what it sounds like.
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I don tthink he cares what we say at this point. He made it pretty obvious it was another "ask for help and ignore advice" thread. I mean seriously, we just got done saying don't clean it anymore and he said he going to change out the substrate anyway. I don't understand why people ask questions if they're minds are already set.
 
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I know, but I just hate to not answer questions at all--and let the traffic level to MFK get even lower.

I'm gonna start posting the link to that sticky like you did.
 
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He said he changed his filter media 3 times then changed water five times. So there is probably no established bacteria. Wonder how the fish are doing. Whoops posted late. Well i hope he takes this great advice you guys have offered.
 
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ragin_cajun said:
I know, but I just hate to not answer questions at all--and let the traffic level to MFK get even lower.

I'm gonna start posting the link to that sticky like you did.
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I was starting to think the post count was getting better recently. It seemed dead a month or so ago with the tech problems but seems to me it's getting better by the day.
 
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