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Oh sorry I meant that “I don’t wanna do another water change because today ima get a 100 g” So do a WC n then later on today changing them to there new tank.. i do like doing water changes as long as my fishes are ok sorry I didn’t typed it all
Also idk wat I mean I’m feeding them to much I only feed them every 2-3 days and is only feeders
 
Also idk wat I mean I’m feeding them to much I only feed them every 2-3 days and is only feeders
Hello; OK now I am more confused. Are you talking about a different tank setup and not the same tank in your other thread?
In that thread it was feeding a shot glass of shrimp every day. In this thread you are feeding feeders every 2-3 days.

Two different tanks with the same problem- too much nitrates. My understanding is too high nitrates mainly happen from a combination of a few things. One is too small % of WC. Another is not often enough WC. Another is overfeeding. Another is decay of organics very often bits of uneaten food. There may be more.

The bottom line is large and often WC are the simplest and more effective way to reduce high nitrates. A word of CAUTION; just in case you have not been doing regular WC every week then there is some risk going to over 50% WC all at once.

For example if you have been doing 20% WC once a month then you should work up to the larger % WC over a few water changes. Say 20% today, 30% tomorrow, 40% the next day and so on. This allows the fish to gradually acclimate. My best WAG is you need a minimum of 50% WC and maybe twice a week. You can adjust the WC schedule later to keep the nitrate numbers below 20 ppm.
 
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Hello; OK now I am more confused. Are you talking about a different tank setup and not the same tank in your other thread?
In that thread it was feeding a shot glass of shrimp every day. In this thread you are feeding feeders every 2-3 days.

Two different tanks with the same problem- too much nitrates. My understanding is too high nitrates mainly happen from a combination of a few things. One is too small % of WC. Another is not often enough WC. Another is overfeeding. Another is decay of organics very often bits of uneaten food. There may be more.

The bottom line is large and often WC are the simplest and more effective way to reduce high nitrates. A word of CAUTION; just in case you have not been doing regular WC every week then there is some risk going to over 50% WC all at once.

For example if you have been doing 20% WC once a month then you should work up to the larger % WC over a few water changes. Say 20% today, 30% tomorrow, 40% the next day and so on. This allows the fish to gradually acclimate. My best WAG is you need a minimum of 50% WC and maybe twice a week. You can adjust the WC schedule later to keep the nitrate numbers below 20 ppm.
No ok here I have a 50 g tank I have
“2 pike charisin”
“1 needle nose”
“ 1 silver gar”
“1 arowana”
“1 vampire tetra”
“1goby and a birchir in a 50 g tank.. i do water change every Friday I only feed them 2-3 (only feeder) (never said I was feeding a shotglass of shrimp) for almost a year I been taking out about 15-20g per WC but my water looks cloudy and kinda yellow or green it looks weird.. I had it crystal clear before idk wat happen after a water change i did the water got cloudy n colored... so since the fishes get big I’ll get a 100g later on today.. (only have one tank right now my 50g)
 
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No ok here I have a 50 g tank I have
“2 pike charisin”
“1 needle nose”
“ 1 silver gar”
“1 arowana”
“1 vampire tetra”
“1goby and a birchir in a 50 g tank.. i do water change every Friday I only feed them 2-3 (only feeder) (never said I was feeding a shotglass of shrimp) for almost a year I been taking out about 15-20g per WC but my water looks cloudy and kinda yellow or green it looks weird.. I had it crystal clear before idk wat happen after a water change i did the water got cloudy n colored... so since the fishes get big I’ll get a 100g later on today.. (only have one tank right now my 50g)
Hello; My mistake. I confused your water quality question with a different thread. I went back and saw it was another member having a similar problem with nitrates. I apologize for adding to any confusion. I was wrong about that part.

The suggestions about WC I stand by. Likely the best way to get high nitrates down will be larger and more often WC.

After looking at you list of fish the cause of your nitrate issue very very likely is overstocking the 50 gallon tank. This will very likely be true for the new larger tank. I have not kept them but it is my understanding a 100 gallon tank is not enough for the arowana alone.

If you plan to keep the 50 gallon and the new 100 gallon then some fish can be left in the 50 gallon and that will help, but likely will not be enough to get the bio-load to reasonable levels.

I also guess that your WC schedule will have to be over 50% every two or three days with that fish stock and only 150 gallons total.
 
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I would not waste your money on a 100g tank, that is a short-term solution to the long-term problem of your fish's potential size. You would need more like a 400g tank to properly house the fish you currently have. Arowana get to 3 feet long, they really need a huge tank. I know the guy at the store probably told you a 100g would be fine, but the sad truth is that he either didn't know, or lied to make a sale.
I would say the problem with your water is because of these factors:
1. Too many large fish for a 50 gallon tank.
2. Not enough filtration. As explained, the "rating" for a 75 gallon tank doesn't mean much, I find that no matter the rating a single HOB filter tends to not provide adequate filtration.
3. Feeders are messy food source. I understand your fish are predators and some may not eat prepared food- but I would recommend trying to train them to eat pellets. The goldfish are very messy and can give your fish diseases.
4. Not enough water changes. How often you need to change the water depends on the bioload of the tank- your bioload is very high, because of the large fish, underfiltration, and messy feeding. So I would recommend more like 2x a week 50% water changes as a minimum.
Good job for putting the time in to ask questions and understand the needs of these fish. A lot of us have given you solid advice here- I hope you choose to follow it.
Best of luck
 
I would not waste your money on a 100g tank, that is a short-term solution to the long-term problem of your fish's potential size. You would need more like a 400g tank to properly house the fish you currently have. Arowana get to 3 feet long, they really need a huge tank. I know the guy at the store probably told you a 100g would be fine, but the sad truth is that he either didn't know, or lied to make a sale.
I would say the problem with your water is because of these factors:
1. Too many large fish for a 50 gallon tank.
2. Not enough filtration. As explained, the "rating" for a 75 gallon tank doesn't mean much, I find that no matter the rating a single HOB filter tends to not provide adequate filtration.
3. Feeders are messy food source. I understand your fish are predators and some may not eat prepared food- but I would recommend trying to train them to eat pellets. The goldfish are very messy and can give your fish diseases.
4. Not enough water changes. How often you need to change the water depends on the bioload of the tank- your bioload is very high, because of the large fish, underfiltration, and messy feeding. So I would recommend more like 2x a week 50% water changes as a minimum.
Good job for putting the time in to ask questions and understand the needs of these fish. A lot of us have given you solid advice here- I hope you choose to follow it.
Best of luck
Thank u.. yes! Ik arowana get really big but she’ll be gone today the guy who’s selling me the tank he’s gonna take the arowana n sell me the 100g with its stand for $80 I’ll only keep my “gars”
 
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