Wats wrong with my UMBEE???

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my umbee is 13 inches long, a beauty, i had it in a tank with a 12 inch male dovii and a 6 inch female dovii. The dovii paired up and the male dovii and male umbee started fighting, which i expected, but the umbee got a big gash on his body ( ill have pics later tonight) which was first pink, but now after about two weeks it has almost completely turned white. it started out looking like white eggs, and now is more fuzzy lookin. i tryed melafix but its not getting any better. wat should i do??
 
I used melafix and pimafix and an arse load of water changes when treating fish with open and or fungused wounds. You are better off moving the umbee to a smaller qt style tank to treat its wounds- if not prepare to become an investor in pimafix and melafix.
 
Yeah halomans right it sounds like your fish has a fungus growth, heres what I found on the web to deal with this



Saprolegnia - Cotton wool Fungus
Fungus is another common disease that affects fish. Most fungus infections are connected to water moulds from the class Oomycetes. From the many different types of fungi, saprolegnia is most commonly known to affect fish. Saprolegnia is a filamentous fungi that can prove to be fatal if it is not treated in the early stages. As with all common moulds, it feeds by secreting digestive enzymes onto its surrounding area. These enzymes break down the cells and tissues on the surrounding object. The fungi then absorbs nutrients such as proteins and carbohydrates.
Water moulds are saprotrophs. Saprotrophs are organisms that obtain their nutrients from non-living organic matter, which in this case, will be fish waste, uneaten food, dead fish etc. However, they are opportunistic parasites that will take advantage on stressed or weakened fish. Water moulds are made of a tangled group of filaments called hyphae. As the group of hyphae grows, it becomes compressed tufts that are collectively called mycelium. This mass of fungi filaments can be seen clearly without the aid of a microscope. The moulds reproduce by releasing thousands of spores into the water. Spores of fungi are always present in aquariums and ponds and cannot be eliminated.
This disease more often comes as a secondary infection. Occasionally it may act as a primary pathogen infecting fish that have not been suffering recently from any infection, mistreatment etc. Fish that are handled roughly: their outer skin can be scraped off. When the skin's protective layer is damaged or removed it enables fungus to move in. Keep in mind that poor water conditions enable diseases to break out fast. Low temperatures, too, are primary causes.
Fungus also affect fish eggs, usually the unfertile ones, however if not treated soon enough it will spread to the fertile eggs as well. The fungus appears as grey or white patches on the fish. Generally at first, saprolegnia establishes as small infections in a specific area and thereafter spreads rapidly over the body and gills of the fish. Sometimes there may be inflammation but unless there is an underlying bacterial infection it is not common. Never under-estimate the danger of this disease. The danger with saprolegnia comes from the speed at which it spreads and the area that is damaged, in which case protein and serum is lost. Fungus can be somewhat difficult to treat, however, our recommendation in treatment would be Maracyn, Maracyn II or Rid Fungus. A 50% water change should be made before the dosage is applied as partial water changes cannot be done during the time in which treatment is in process as it weakens the medication. When the treatment is complete, a 50% should be done again to help remove the medication.
 
Vizzerdrix26;1557684; said:
Yeah halomans right it sounds like your fish has a fungus growth, heres what I found on the web to deal with this



Saprolegnia - Cotton wool Fungus
Fungus is another common disease that affects fish. Most fungus infections are connected to water moulds from the class Oomycetes. From the many different types of fungi, saprolegnia is most commonly known to affect fish. Saprolegnia is a filamentous fungi that can prove to be fatal if it is not treated in the early stages. As with all common moulds, it feeds by secreting digestive enzymes onto its surrounding area. These enzymes break down the cells and tissues on the surrounding object. The fungi then absorbs nutrients such as proteins and carbohydrates.
Water moulds are saprotrophs. Saprotrophs are organisms that obtain their nutrients from non-living organic matter, which in this case, will be fish waste, uneaten food, dead fish etc. However, they are opportunistic parasites that will take advantage on stressed or weakened fish. Water moulds are made of a tangled group of filaments called hyphae. As the group of hyphae grows, it becomes compressed tufts that are collectively called mycelium. This mass of fungi filaments can be seen clearly without the aid of a microscope. The moulds reproduce by releasing thousands of spores into the water. Spores of fungi are always present in aquariums and ponds and cannot be eliminated.
This disease more often comes as a secondary infection. Occasionally it may act as a primary pathogen infecting fish that have not been suffering recently from any infection, mistreatment etc. Fish that are handled roughly: their outer skin can be scraped off. When the skin's protective layer is damaged or removed it enables fungus to move in. Keep in mind that poor water conditions enable diseases to break out fast. Low temperatures, too, are primary causes.
Fungus also affect fish eggs, usually the unfertile ones, however if not treated soon enough it will spread to the fertile eggs as well. The fungus appears as grey or white patches on the fish. Generally at first, saprolegnia establishes as small infections in a specific area and thereafter spreads rapidly over the body and gills of the fish. Sometimes there may be inflammation but unless there is an underlying bacterial infection it is not common. Never under-estimate the danger of this disease. The danger with saprolegnia comes from the speed at which it spreads and the area that is damaged, in which case protein and serum is lost. Fungus can be somewhat difficult to treat, however, our recommendation in treatment would be Maracyn, Maracyn II or Rid Fungus. A 50% water change should be made before the dosage is applied as partial water changes cannot be done during the time in which treatment is in process as it weakens the medication. When the treatment is complete, a 50% should be done again to help remove the medication.

And unless one has delt with this first hand-
It's a bunch of bull-

And before people jump onme-

Yes I have delt with it and recovered my fish to almost 100% good health...
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oh wow thats horrible looking good to hear the fish got better though
 
Vizzerdrix26;1557759; said:
oh wow thats horrible looking good to hear the fish got better though

One of the worse thing I have personally seen....Very hard to cure also.....But he is doing well and looks almost 1000 times better....Very little scaring left
 
i put the umbee in a 75 i have upstairs, it has a few fish in it already including a loisellei, a couple small firemouths, and a small dovii, if i go the salt route, do u think it will hurt the smaller fish
 
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